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Old 05-04-2011, 12:53 AM
 
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Think about it. If the US military acted out because of a command originated from Heaven(Bush's command from God), that makes them Heaven's army just by default. Through Bush, They acted out because of a voice of God from Heaven. They are henceforth knighted as the army of Heaven.
That's some darn fine trollin, hoss.

 
Old 05-04-2011, 03:09 AM
 
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It is interesting that Bush and Bin Laden were actually quite similar.

Each of them believed they were anointed by God. GWB, of course, believed it was the Christian God and OBL believed it was the Islamic God, but still both believed they were following their God.

Both of them characterized their enemies as evil. Bush called his enemies the Axis of Evil. Bin Laden called America the Evil Empire.

Both of them used fear to control their people. Both believed that their way was the only way to live and that people should follow them.

Note that the business ties between Bush's family and Bin Laden's family were very tight. Bush actually thwarted FBI investigations into the Saudis. Here's a BBC program on that from June of 2001

BBC News | NEWSNIGHT | Greg Palest report transcript - 6/11/01

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In the eight weeks since the attacks, over 1,000 suspects and potential witnesses have been detained. Yet, just days after the hijackers took off from Boston aiming for the Twin Towers, a special charter flight out of the same airport whisked 11 members of Osama Bin Laden's family off to Saudi Arabia. That did not concern the White House.

Their official line is that the Bin Ladens are above suspicion - apart from Osama, the black sheep, who they say hijacked the family name. That's fortunate for the Bush family and the Saudi royal household, whose links with the Bin Ladens could otherwise prove embarrassing. But Newsnight has obtained evidence that the FBI was on the trail of other members of the] Bin Laden family for links to terrorist organisations before and after September 11th.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Mr. Bush claimed that it was God that told him to go into Iraq to bring peace to the middle east. And from the beginning he kept saying that they will fight for freedom, and that they want freedom. Now much of the middle East is standing up for freedom. I'd like to know where Bush got that piece of info. How did he KNOW they would fight for freedom? Was it God?



btw, Bin Laden is dead and Islam is going to fall so completely, it will echo for an eternity.

This is a joke, right? In real life, do you write for "The Onion?"
 
Old 05-04-2011, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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God told Bush to go in...
No, that's just what Bush said. You're apparently one of the few who believe that. It wasn't God; it was his corporate backers.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Mr. Bush claimed that it was God that told him to go into Iraq to bring peace to the middle east. And from the beginning he kept saying that they will fight for freedom, and that they want freedom. Now much of the middle East is standing up for freedom. I'd like to know where Bush got that piece of info. How did he KNOW they would fight for freedom? Was it God?



btw, Bin Laden is dead and Islam is going to fall so completely, it will echo for an eternity.
God followed President Bush. Remember, you had to be "with him or against him". God was with him.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 06:10 AM
 
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So why haven't you guys invaded China?
Please don't assume Christian wackjobs speak for the rest of us.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Bush was afraid of China, that's why. It was a battle he knew he could not win. That's why he didn't rush in there after the Chinese shot down that spy plane.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Please don't assume Christian wackjobs speak for the rest of us.
Fear not...I don't! Just interested to know why BP supports the removal of a dictator in Iraq but is keeping rather quiet about sending 'Heaven's Army' in to remove the one in China.
 
Old 05-04-2011, 08:08 AM
 
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I'd say....anyone who claims Freedom, Via slaughtering all who oppose it..and that God said to do it...are liars!

If God said thou shall not Kill..and made it the laws of life...as a commandment...well we have a pointer of/to exactly what God wants from us in that little commandment....anyone Killing anybody is breaking that commandment,, and anyone who supports that Killing is also partners in the crime against God and his laws and commandmandments, precepts, and covenants..!

So..when they say this is the righeous way (war)....remember they are all deceived by the liar and the lies they tell to make it so....to continually sin against God!

Remember we are suppose to share like God...and Give everything like God...and be good to one another...and help each other...and do Good onto those who hate us...and bless them...

That is what is suppose to be done by all....if we use God as our reasoning model...and Jesus as our Guiding light of hope!

So killing what stands in the way of a bent and twisted hipocrisy...to rid a problem they created on the other side of the coin/Idol...is not the solution...."Your making a den of robbers, theives, and criminals, sinners, and evil doers....was once upon a time foretold by the one who kicked somethng out of his fathers house!.....and it is no different today, as the same thing is being used.(MONEY).and no one is sharing and caring for the Earth or the animals well, if they pollute it with the burning of the dead blood made.....if they Prohibite certain Plants from being sown, which are part of the living force of Life...God said was Good, and necessary to climatize and feed the creation..and thusly Given "Genesis 9:3".....that is the truth of God...they do not want you to give back to God in a sinless fashion his true Kingdom...for when it is given back to God, to make amends for the First sin, and repented for all the sins that followed...God comes to see who finally Did it.
That is why they prohibite the plant, and keep us believing it is a Bad Drug, and nothing more..etc...when we know it is much more than that...and that is why they fear its truth.
For a free system to arise, we need all the Givens in their rightful placement....in a sinless Fashion...to reverse the curse of death, sin, and evil.

Free food, free fuel..Free world...true freedom?...all given by God!!!...when we share all the givens with all life..and make more together....not profaning, not second judging God or his spoken words, or what he made GOOD....."it is all Good when taken with thanksgiving"...and used to make the planet climatized...so we need less and less polluting fuels..and we tend and keep the Garden...Like God asked we do, as that is why God made us. ..Helpers of it?...as the primary reasoning God used to make us Like Himself......of course the opposite mindset of that caregiving mind is to pollute, distroy, profane, and prohibite the truth of God, and even God himself from being adhered to and or followed...in any way shape or form.....so that everything spins in the opposite way.....and sin abounds, evil is second nature...and nature seems to be out of control on many levels...wonder why?

"Woe to them who harm the Earth"...polluters are included in that ideal.....so anyone who says let us Go to War and slaughter these people because of X and the bunch of lies that will then follow...as we have witnessed....is not working for God!

If we are doing anything like that....then we are surely on the wrong path...and not in compliance with GOD>...

So when someone choses to go to war, and slaughter countless People for some bent lie....Please do not say it is the God of creation's word that spurred it into being...cause that is just another LIE from the liars club.

And if they use the IDOL of engraven images....then they know not GOD,...and if we continually use and make the idols told not to...and are born under it as the only way to live..and the need for it to live...then we make that Idol more important than God....another wrong..another bent generation..another war..another problem..another sinner, and Evil doer will sit on it...and all the woes will come upon it......as that is why God said what God said.

Freedom and liberty for ALL....means that all have the right to do what they think is best for the whole creation...and or not do...."those who Do the will of the father, shall enter paradise"...and that leads to the Garden principle..and that leads to the plants...and that leads to something missing that was taken with out God's aproval....putting it back where it belongs is in my mind paramount!...doing it sinlessly, well that should reverse something to gain forgiveness....I'd say.

And Now, if they prohibite, inprison, slaughter, and make profane what God called Good, and those trying to sow that Truth of God and the plants back into the eco systems sinlessly....then what Freedom and liberty are they speaking about?

Amen?

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Old 05-04-2011, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I'd say....anyone who claims Freedom, Via slaughtering all who oppose it..and that God said to do it...are liars!

If God saif thou shall not Kill...as a commandment...well we have a pointer of exactly what God wants from us in that little commandment....anyone Killing anybody is breaking that commandment,, and anyone who supports that Killing is also partners in the crime agains God and his laws commandmandments..!
The followers of the 'god of love and mercy' have got that covered Les. They have recently changed the word "Kill" to "Murder" (though I don't see how it makes any difference) despite the fact that they've been perfectly happy with their Bible saying the word "kill" for over two thousand years. I suppose PC gets everywhere these days.
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