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Old 05-30-2011, 02:42 PM
 
Location: saudia
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What, exactly, do you mean by that? "Trust" in what way? As in, being secure in the knowledge it contains, or complete blind faith that every word is supposed to be taken literally (which most Jews know is not the case).
OK, I meant Is it is the same Torah that was revealed to Moses, peace be upon him by her word ?
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:47 AM
 
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It was written by dictation. He had people around him write down what he told them to with whatever was available at the time. Some Muslims have suggested to me that some of the Koran was written in his own blood and his own fecies. Why you wish peace apon such a horrible demonic man is beyond me.
As u said ... its beyond u ...
So ... could u please till us more about those "Some Muslims " ..


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Great but you are difficult to understand by those reading what you write and that becomes a problem..
I've been informed before that I have a problem in communication especially with Zionists .. Strangely that only happens at certain particular points where they suddenly stop understanding .
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:31 AM
 
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As u said ... its beyond u ...
So ... could u please till us more about those "Some Muslims " ..



I've been informed before that I have a problem in communication especially with Zionists .. Strangely that only happens at certain particular points where they suddenly stop understanding .
You inability to write comprehendible english has nothing to do with my views on Israel.

I study Hebrew but I would never try to carry on conversations and expect to be understood 100% of the time. And if I did and someone said they could not understand what I was saying I would blame my poor Hebrew not the person who can't understand me.

You sentence structure is really hard to understand...
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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You inability to write comprehendible english has nothing to do with my views on Israel.

I study Hebrew but I would never try to carry on conversations and expect to be understood 100% of the time. And if I did and someone said they could not understand what I was saying I would blame my poor Hebrew not the person who can't understand me.

You sentence structure is really hard to understand...
I am not trying to write a poem in English here ... !!
Any way ...
What are the things "Points" that you did not understand specifically and I will try to explain it in a better way ..
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:55 AM
 
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I am not trying to write a poem in English here ... !!
Any way ...
What are the things "Points" that you did not understand specifically and I will try to explain it in a better way ..

Who said you were trying to write a poem. You just seem to be unable to understand that your English is hard to understand sometimes...

Get over yourself and just accept it..

I have already told you what specifically I did not understand and instead of clarifying it you attacked me for daring to say I did not understand you.

You can go back and re read it, I don't intend to..
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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OK, I meant Is it is the same Torah that was revealed to Moses?
Yes. Why would you think that it wasn't?
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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Who said you were trying to write a poem.
... !!!
forget it ..
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Get over yourself and just accept it..
What ever you say chief
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I have already told you what specifically I did not understan
No you did not ...
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and instead of clarifying it you attacked me for daring to say I did not understand you.
Attacking !!
You love that word don't u !!
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You can go back and re read it, I don't intend to..
Me too ...
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:11 AM
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Location: Marion, North Dakota
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Yes. Why would you think that it wasn't?
Us Muslims believe it has been altered over the years. Especially the Translations. If you look at the Jewish understanding of it and compare it with the Christian understanding it is as if they are 2 different things.

I tend to believe the Jewish understanding will be the more accurate.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Us Muslims believe it has been altered over the years. Especially the Translations. If you look at the Jewish understanding of it and compare it with the Christian understanding it is as if they are 2 different things.

I tend to believe the Jewish understanding will be the more accurate.
Well, Christian-oriented translations of the Torah do have a particular slant, don't they? It would be surprising if they didn't. In my case, being Jewish, I am not concerned with the way a Christian translates or interprets the Torah.

In any case, as that relates to this thread...the name of Muhammad does not appear in Jewish scripture. There may be a word somewhere in there that sounds like it--but that would be nothing more than a coincidence.
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:30 PM
 
Location: in a mystical land far away from you
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I translated this " מחמד " on Google translator and it came out "pets".
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