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Old 06-04-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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Gentiles were never under Mosaic Law at all. It was specifically restricted to the Jews. That's basic biblical knowledge which prevents one from asking non Jewish Christians why they don't follow Mosaic Law.


Also, the establishment of a New Covenant is basic biblical knowledge which prevents one from asking any Christian regardless of ethnic background why he doesn't follow Mosaic Law.


The point is this: If we lack basic knowledge what are we doing trying to teach those who posses that knowledge on what the Bible means? Instead we should be seeking their guidance in understanding the basics. Even more presumptuous is posturing as some type of expert and presuming to know. Why do you do it?
And therein lies the cut.

God simply changes his mind about laws?

One law is good for this group of people but not that group?

How ridiculous this all looks and sounds. A mercurial god who simply can't be consistent
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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God doesn't despise the homosexual person, but the actual sin of homosexuality. He loves everyone...just not the sins that they commit. Now as far as if you run into a Christian talking about how homosexuals are such bad people or that God hates them, they aren't speaking the truth. They need to be called out on.
If you had a better understanding of what sexual orientation is, you'd realise that you post doesn't actually make sense.
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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If you had a better understanding of what sexual orientation is, you'd realise that you post doesn't actually make sense.
I fear you waste your time for the deliberate ignorance exhibited by those that refuse to understand is harder to counter than those that are simply incapable.
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:27 AM
 
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The point is this: If we lack basic knowledge what are we doing trying to teach those who posses that knowledge on what the Bible means? Instead we should be seeking their guidance in understanding the basics. Even more presumptuous is posturing as some type of expert and presuming to know. Why do you do it?

?
So why are you trying to teach others when your own knowledge and understanding is so limited?
Why are you posturing as some kind of expert? It's very obvious that you are not.
I suggest you seek guidance in undertstanding the basics. Learning about the history and cultures in which the texts were written would be a good place to start.
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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I fear you waste your time for the deliberate ignorance exhibited by those that refuse to understand is harder to counter than those that are simply incapable.
It's really kind of bizarre and facinating.
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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It's really kind of bizarre and facinating.
Then the sobering realization that they vote, raise children
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:58 PM
 
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And therein lies the cut.

God simply changes his mind about laws?

One law is good for this group of people but not that group?

How ridiculous this all looks and sounds. A mercurial god who simply can't be consistent
You sound as if you haven't taken the time to understand why God chose Israel and what the purpose of the Law as applied to Israel was in relation to the rest of mankind. At least that's what your statements indicate. Am I right?
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Old 06-05-2011, 07:33 AM
 
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The LGBT agenda is one of hate. They are using this supposed "hate" to attempt to make those abiding by the laws of God feel guilty. They, the LGBT community are causing young people who are confused about their sexuality to hate themselves which is having devastating effects. Really, who would teach a group of young people that God-fearing people "hate" them? Only people with a very selfish agenda. This is a wonderful website: Awaken Manhattan especially with the young man that speaks on one of the videos, a young man who discovered he had homosexual feelings but realized a better way that aligned with his moral values. If you feel hated, look within yourself to resolve that. There are people who have moral values and belief in the laws of God and to whom this is a very difficult situation but making it legal will not make it moral to those people and they will continue to struggle. The only one talking "hate" is the LGBT community and they have created an extremely hostile atmosphere for members of their own community. People who follow the laws of God hate no one and if you had God in your heart, this would not be news to you.
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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You sound as if you haven't taken the time to understand why God chose Israel and what the purpose of the Law as applied to Israel was in relation to the rest of mankind. At least that's what your statements indicate. Am I right?
You are consistantly wrong.
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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The LGBT agenda is one of hate. They are using this supposed "hate" to attempt to make those abiding by the laws of God feel guilty. They, the LGBT community are causing young people who are confused about their sexuality to hate themselves which is having devastating effects. Really, who would teach a group of young people that God-fearing people "hate" them? Only people with a very selfish agenda. This is a wonderful website: Awaken Manhattan especially with the young man that speaks on one of the videos, a young man who discovered he had homosexual feelings but realized a better way that aligned with his moral values. If you feel hated, look within yourself to resolve that. There are people who have moral values and belief in the laws of God and to whom this is a very difficult situation but making it legal will not make it moral to those people and they will continue to struggle. The only one talking "hate" is the LGBT community and they have created an extremely hostile atmosphere for members of their own community. People who follow the laws of God hate no one and if you had God in your heart, this would not be news to you.
I see.

You don't "hate" gay people, you just want to be free to discriminate against them, spread misinformation, myths and lies about them, call them morally wrong, deny them equal protection and force your particular religious views on others through city ordinances.

Plus you want to spread your ill-informed, scientifically unsupported notions about sexual orientation to gay teens, tell them they are immoral, and tell them that if they just pray hard enough they can be straight. Of course when they realise this doesn't work, some young teens kill themselves because people like you have taught them to hate themselves.

But no...you do this because you "love" gay people.

Got it.

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