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Old 05-25-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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How do you know that?
Reason, logic and common sense....not to mention the mountains of verifiable scientific evidence that disproves.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Ashburn, Va
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Has Steven had an NDE?

NDE's prove nothing. We understand very little when it come to the brain. So what one experiences during near death is very circumspect. Using NDE's as proof of the afterlife is foolish.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Has Steven had an NDE?
No he hasn't...and neither has the boy in the video.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Has Steven had an NDE?
Lots of people have had near death experiences, including me, but there is nothing supernatural about it.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Why would such a great being (God) use such primitive tactics to make his will be done? If I were "God", I would have just given people telepathy (that way, no one could lie to the other). I also would not have allowed money to exists (that way, no one steals). I would have made beings able to live without food (no fights over limited resources). I also would show my face to all of my creations so there would be no doubts or debates over whether or not I exist. Could it be that this puny little human blogger would be a "better" God than the current crop of invisible Gods that billions of folks believe in?
What you mentioned does exist, but in the afterlife. It does not exist in mortal life because it is a learning experience and we wouldn't learn anything if everyone had telepathy or if food wasn't necessary.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Lots of people have had near death experiences, including me, but there is nothing supernatural about it.
What happened during your NDE? What did you experience? And how do you know that nobody has a supernatural NDE? But I was asking about Stephen.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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If you don't have an answer for a question then that answer is God.
Pure logic there. All the answers for every question are in the bible.
Makes a lot more sense than believing in nothing!
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I had a blood clot that blocked a major artery in my heart...Knew I was in trouble, but felt no fear, but had a peaceful, calm, almost euphoric sensation and felt detached from reality, as though I was on some kind of wonderful drug...Since that happened I have often said that this would be the way I want to die.
I'm pretty sure the sensations I felt were caused by the lack of blood flow to my brain.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:19 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Absolute moral laws do not exist, and I am correct about atheism.
I see "Respect my authority!"

Really why should your or Hawking's opinion about God be any more meaningful than any other educated or life-experienced person? Why is it more valid than Freeman Dyson, John Barrow, Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Francis Collins, Nobel laureate Charles H. Townes, and so forth?

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Why your brain cannot compute that simple fact is beyond me.
The "anyone who disagrees with me on God is incompetent or crazy" idea.

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Atheists do not believe in any deity...Seems pretty simple to me.
Yes it is simple. Not believing in set theory or gravitons or the time before your birth is also simple. That something is simple doesn't make it right or wrong.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I see "Respect my authority!"

Really why should your or Hawking's opinion about God be any more meaningful than any other educated or life-experienced person? Why is it more valid than Freeman Dyson, John Barrow, Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Francis Collins, Nobel laureate Charles H. Townes, and so forth?



The "anyone who disagrees with me on God is incompetent or crazy" idea.



Yes it is simple. Not believing in set theory or gravitons or the time before your birth is also simple. That something is simple doesn't make it right or wrong.

What on earth are you babbling about?...When I said that I was right about atheism I meant the DEFINITION of atheism, as you would have known if you'd followed the thread.
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