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Old 10-08-2007, 02:57 PM
 
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No, it was not my assumption that the answer was "no". I asked the question based on my recollection of never reading in the bible where Jesus directed his followers to write his words down in a book. Being fully aware that I may have been wrong, I posed the question to others who may have possibly read such a passage, that I may have missed.

My final point is...if Jesus did not direct his diciples to write his words, then the words of Jesus in the New Testament were "unauthorized" and therefore, the New Testament is "unauthorized".
How do we know that Jesus didn't specifically direct them to write His words when he was gone? At least one of the gospels makes mention of the fact that Jesus did many things which went unrecorded.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:08 PM
 
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"Give me a word, give me a sign.
Show me where to look.
Tell me: What will I find?"
Oh, June, I'm trying....I'm trying

I have a friend, a dear friend who is quite fond of Zen.

They say Zen considers these words/signs, if I may be so liberal, undefinable.

I say 'no', it's definable.

The answer to every request above is The Name Above All Names.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:08 PM
 
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It's obvious this person doesn't want an answer. Remember the verse about casting your pearls & swine?
Save your strength. You did a great job answering the questions. They were right on the money and easy to understand.
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:09 PM
 
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How do we know that Jesus didn't specifically direct them to write His words when he was gone? At least one of the gospels makes mention of the fact that Jesus did many things which went unrecorded.
Excellent point, kaykay. Of course you're probably gonna get accused of playing your 'get outta jail free card' LOL
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:53 PM
 
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The Quran says that God asked Jesus if he went throughout the world proclaiming that he was the Son of God, and Jesus denied doing so. Therefore, I find it quite strange that there is no "direct instruction" from Jesus to his diciples, to write his words or life events in the New Testament or any other book.
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:12 PM
 
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So you go from this....

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We always hear, Jesus said this and Jesus said that in the Bible. But did Jesus ever actually direct his follows to write the New Testament or write down his words?
to this......

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The Quran says that God asked Jesus if he went throughout the world proclaiming that he was the Son of God, and Jesus denied doing so.
and accuse me of the bait and switch?

You ask about the Bible and then reference the Quran.

At least we know now that you weren't 'really' asking......
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Jesus did in fact tell his disciples to write the New Testament, Mark 16:15 And then he told them, “Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone."

They all did just that, and wrote the New Testament for all future generations.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:14 PM
 
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As God is my witness, the Holy Spirit told me a few months ago....in a loud audio voice...."I NEVER told anyone to write anything!" With over 3000 different Christian denominations, I can clearly understand why Yeshua gave me this message. I can honestly say I've been seeking the Truth for the past 16 years and the answers are finally coming.
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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Default Did Jesus command to write

Did Jesus command his followers to write? Not in a literal go write this down. More relevant for his time period, Jesus DID, however, command his followers to go TEACH what he had taught them. If you study history, you will learn that his society was an "oral tradition" society. Knowledge was passed on through memorization and Rabbis were famous for memorizing vast quantities of scripture (The entire first 5 books of the bible - or the Torah for example.)

"19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age. - Jesus' last command before ascension.

It is much more relevant that the command be TEACH than write. TEACH would INCLUDE but not be limited to writing.

Hope that answers and provides clarity to your question.
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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The Quran says that God asked Jesus if he went throughout the world proclaiming that he was the Son of God, and Jesus denied doing so. Therefore, I find it quite strange that there is no "direct instruction" from Jesus to his diciples, to write his words or life events in the New Testament or any other book.

This would also be massively incorrect as Jesus affirms that he is the Unique (monogenese) Son of God on numerous occasions. When asked DIRECTLY to his face, he confirmed he was.

They all asked, "Are you then the Son of God?" He replied, "You are right in saying I am." - Luke 22:70

There are numerous other occasions where this is documented as well. More important than this demonstrating that the Qur'an is false, is the fact that Jesus most commonly applied title to himself is "Son of Man" and he specifically gives the reference to the "Son of man coming on the clouds" (Matthew 24:30) which is a specific prophetic reference to Daniel 7:13-14 where in the Son of Man is given all power, dominion (Rule), so that ALL PEOPLE of ALL nations would WORSHIP him. Thus, Jesus specifically connects himself to a passage that defines him as God. (Only God is to receive worship. Only God rules and has dominion of all people.)

Hope that ALSO provides you some additional clarity.
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