Atheism is like a spiritual auto-immune disorder

[CaptBeavs]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

What is your evidence for this insupportable certainty?

What's unsupportable? It's scientific fact that hominids thousands and millions of years ago had no concept of belief in a God. There is evidence of their daily lives with regard to thousands of details, none of which point to divine belief.

[CaptBeavs]

Originally Posted by Chango

...which makes as much sense as 3 fish going to the opera in Smarch.



What are you trying to argue anyway? That there is no god? If so, I believe you are probably right. My point is that is STILL a maybe, no matter how much we want it to be absolute.

I'm trying to argue that the only "absolute" being bandied about is by religious people, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I never once said anything implying "we know everything", yet you attributed this phrase to me. I never said ONCE that we should dispose of all wisdom that may be contained in religious thinking, yet you attributed this to me.

Again, you fly off at the mouth with assumptions about what strangers are thinking, merely because you overestimate your powers of telepathy. My guess is you're some college sophomore, or perhaps a first-year graduate student, taking his philosophy or quantum physics class for a test-drive on the Internets. It's highly annoying.

[Chango]

Originally Posted by CaptBeavs

I'm trying to argue that the only "absolute" being bandied about is by religious people, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I never once said anything implying "we know everything", yet you attributed this phrase to me. I never said ONCE that we should dispose of all wisdom that may be contained in religious thinking, yet you attributed this to me.

Again, you fly off at the mouth with assumptions about what strangers are thinking, merely because you overestimate your powers of telepathy. My guess is you're some college sophomore, or perhaps a first-year graduate student, taking his philosophy or quantum physics class for a test-drive on the Internets. It's highly annoying.

Then I've succeeded here.

People like you come and go all time; you just want to fight, not learn or expand your horizons.

[CaptBeavs]

Originally Posted by Chango

Then I've succeeded here.

People like you come and go all time; you just want to fight, not learn or expand your horizons.

I don't really get all the childish histrionics from you. I'm making a valid, salient point, which you're choosing to ignore. You eschew honest debate in favor of firing off at the mouth with red-herrings, and inserting emoticons and animated .gifs to make up for your lack of substance.

And it is ironic that your retort is a reference to Stephen Colbert. Your actual personality is very similar to the character he sarcastically portrays on his show.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by CaptBeavs

What's unsupportable? It's scientific fact that hominids thousands and millions of years ago had no concept of belief in a God. There is evidence of their daily lives with regard to thousands of details, none of which point to divine belief.

This scientific speculation may be your belief . . . but it is far from scientific fact. There is no way to ascertain what was or was not in the minds of hominids once they developed human consciousness. Prior to that they were animals (with no more than animal awareness) . . . NOT humans.

[MissNM]

I like a good disagreement and I like disecting semantics. But, wow - you guys are freaking me out.

Let's accept that one person can believe one thing, and someone else can either believe in something different or just choose to not believe the same thing.

I think the bigger picture is that people, regardless of belief or non-belief, should strive to accept that we don't share the same opinions. Talk about it, share your ideas, hope the "other" side will change their mind. But in the long run, some of us will be right and some of us wrong. In the meantime, we all have the choice of freewill. Walk that path in a manner kind to each other and this world will be a better place. The afterlife (heaven/hell, nothingness, conversion of energy, whatever) will take care of itself.

[Asheville Native]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

Atheism is not a belief system.

Not collecting stamps is not a hobby.

Bald is not a hair color

[KCfromNC]

Originally Posted by MissNM

It a conscious decision to stand outside of the belief system of others.

No. People can't make a conscious decision to believe stuff which makes no sense to them. Belief, or lack of, isn't a choice.

I guess you could just fake it and go along with the crowd - but we have enough of those sorts of religious people already. And really, if everyone jumped off a bridge would you?

[KCfromNC]

Originally Posted by KCfromNC

References to peer-reviewed primary research, please.

*Crickets*

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by KCfromNC

No. People can't make a conscious decision to believe stuff which makes no sense to them. Belief, or lack of, isn't a choice.

Well . . . you got that one right. As to your puerile request for peer-reviewed research for my hypothesis . . . that is NOT how it works. I have never claimed my HYPOTHESIS is established science fact. I said it is based on current science and completely consistent with it . . . that includes quite a few fields all of which are based on peer-reviewed results. If you have been reading my substantive posts with accomplished posters . . . they have been presented before.