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Old 08-09-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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While it is probable more Christians than Muslims will read this, I am addressing this thread to my Muslim Brothers and Sisters.

I begin this thread, Bismillah ir Rahman ir Raheem, with Surah 5 ayyat 82

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and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
Let us concentrate on this ayyat especially during this Holy Month of Ramadan. Let us allow that which we share, show us the path to live side by side in peace. We need not agree with each other, to be just and fair in all things.

Let us also look at what some Christians believe about us, from those called Catholic in their catechism we find:

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The Moslems, "professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who at the last day wiill judge mankind" (Lumen Gentium 16). Though the Islamic faith does not acknowledge Jesus as God, it does revere Him as prophet, and also honors His virgin mother. Moslems "prize the moral life, and give worship to God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting" (Nostra Aetate 3). Noting that there had been many quarrels and hostilies between Christians and Muslims, the Second Vatican Council urged that all "forget the past and strive sincerely for mutual understanding, and, on the behalf of all mankind, make common cause of safeguarding and fostering social justice, moral values, peace, and freedom" (Nostra Aetate 3).

Now let us look at some beliefs many Christians share with us:

1. Regular prayers

2. Fasting

3, The day of Judgement

4. Belief in Prophets

5. Belief in angels

6. The Virgin birth of Isa(as) (Jesus)

7. Heaven and Hell

8. Allaah(swt) (God) created all things

9. Adam(as) is the first man

10. Allaah(swt) (God) Knows all things even that which is still to happen.

Let this Month of Ramadan be a time to sincerely treat all people with fairness and be just to each other. Let us not be aggressors and transgress beyond our limits as we are warned in Surah 4 ayyat14:

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But those who disobey Allah and His Messenger and transgress His limits will be admitted to a Fire, to abide therein: And they shall have a humiliating punishment.
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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Yes, Christianity is as absurd and contrived as Islam. We know that.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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Yes, Christianity is as absurd and contrived as Islam. We know that.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Yes, Christianity is as absurd and contrived as Islam. We know that.

Peace QH,

Thank you for sharing your belief. Although I personally believe the "WE know that," is too general as there may be some some who do not share your view.

To some degree I do agree with your first sentence as I believe all who worship the one mono-theistic God(swt) had the same source.
I and perhaps others do not see the Source as being absurd and contrived.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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We also have Maryam (Mary) in common.
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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We also have Maryam (Mary) in common.
Thank you, in fact the Islamic beliefs of Maryam are very close to being identical to the Christian teachings.
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Old 08-10-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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Food.
See I don't eat Pork and unclean food.Even the bible forbids it.
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Old 08-10-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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Food.
See I don't eat Pork and unclean food.Even the bible forbids it.
Some, denominations are much closer to us(Muslims) than others. The same message was gived to Christians as was given to us. There should be no difference between Christianity and Islam if both follow what was given.
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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Food.
See I don't eat Pork and unclean food.Even the bible forbids it.

i guess you've never had a bacon salad? i don't care what it says in two old books about pork, i will never give up on the bacon salad.. the other white meat
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:52 PM
 
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Many people have come up with reasons for forbidding pork. Many of them make sense. But the best one I can find, I discovered when I used to raise them. there is no humane way to slaughter them, physically and emotionally. the little critters are very terrified and they do seem to realize they are fixing to be killed and it terrifies them. I stopped eating pork, long before I accepted Islam. The look on a pig being led to slaughter, was too much for me to take anymore. Plus it takes a long time for them to die and they seem to suffer very much.

While we can come up with many reasons not to eat pork, we really only need one and that being Allaah(swt) has forbidden it. We need no other reason.
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