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Old 09-04-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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evil like Muhammad the problem name of the prophet in the bible and Torah ALLAH SAID [ Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it].]
ALLAH said [ And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."]
prophet Mohamed named in your bible prophet Jesus said by him self in this film the proof is very very clear do you know what is your problem you do not want accept the truth
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Have you ever asked yourself how Muhammad can be quoting, word for word, what Jesus says, when Muhammad lived around 600 years after the lifetime of Jesus? Muhammad was making that crap up. It is mythology using Biblical charectures. It's called FICTION.
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:48 PM
 
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evil is deliberately causing harm, and enjoying it.
No, that's sadism.
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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evil is deliberately causing harm, and enjoying it.
Sadism is evil, sho' nuff.
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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German philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche, described it best: (paraphrasing) 'good' and 'evil' do not exist. Society functions on what is acceptable, or not acceptable, and label these as either 'good' or 'evil'.

We have countless examples for this. What one person believes is good may be considered as evil by another.
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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German philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche, described it best: (paraphrasing) 'good' and 'evil' do not exist. Society functions on what is acceptable, or not acceptable, and label these as either 'good' or 'evil'.

We have countless examples for this. What one person believes is good may be considered as evil by another.
Without God(swt) there is neither good nor evil. We have no control over what either is, but we do have control over which we do.
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Old 09-04-2011, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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German philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche, described it best: (paraphrasing) 'good' and 'evil' do not exist. Society functions on what is acceptable, or not acceptable, and label these as either 'good' or 'evil'.

We have countless examples for this. What one person believes is good may be considered as evil by another.
That's not how society works. We don't go by Nietzsche.
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Old 09-04-2011, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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How does morality work without good or evil? Or is morality nonexistent, also? I can't comprehend that level of nihilism.
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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If it keeps you from being the very best person that you could be, then it's evil. There are little evils (like overeating and not exercising) and big evils (murder, incest, etc.) but they all have one thing in common....

They keep you from being the best person that you could be.
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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I'm not saying it's non-existant, I'm merely replying to the OP:



... and stating that there is no "objective" evil or morality. The answer to his question is obviously "no." I think this is pretty self-evident.

Is it "moral" for a wolf to kill an injured member of its own pack? Is it evil? And are we so arrogant as to assume that us mammals are so different from wolves that there is an inherent, objective evil/immoral standard for us, and not the wolf? It's evolution. For humans, we have evolved society and order, and this is foreign to lesser mammals. So we struggle to come up with a label for it.

Many people will find evil in extra-marital sex; others file pretty much nothing but murder and abuse of children under evil.

You also seem to have a connection in your mind with regard to nihilism and atheism/anti-religiosity. Just because we don't recognize religious morality or ghostly received wisdom doesn't mean atheists don't abhor wrongdoing.
I do recognize my beliefs are not shared by all people, which is why I asked the question. Not to convince others but to let others express their own views. Nothing to debate, agree with or disagree with. Simply seeking some insight into how we all arrive at the concepts of Good and Evil, or if the concepts have any universal meaning
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Old 09-04-2011, 10:05 PM
 
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Is there a clear concept of what determines evil, that we all agree upon?

What to you is considered to be evil?
That which causes harm... & often it's subconscious.
Nobody's perfect.
It's not so much the sin that's evil, as the persistent denial that it's evil (or causing harm to one or others).
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