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Old 09-04-2011, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Evil to many theists, including myself, is the deliberate disobedience of God(swt).


That is a very limited answer and I am certain others will have a more specific answer. I am also certain others will define evil as being related to the times and circumstances.

Is there a clear concept of what determines evil, that we all agree upon?

What to you is considered to be evil?
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Old 09-04-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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the evil my brother when ALLAH gave the men all the things and sent to him prophets to clear for people his way ALLAH SAID [ He created the heavens and earth in truth. High is He above what they associate with Him He created man from a sperm-drop; then at once, he is a clear adversary. And the grazing livestock He has created for you; in them is warmth and [numerous] benefits, and from them you eat. And for you in them is [the enjoyment of] beauty when you bring them in [for the evening] and when you send them out [to pasture].And they carry your loads to a land you could not have reached except with difficulty to yourselves. Indeed, your Lord is Kind and Merciful. And [He created] the horses, mules and donkeys for you to ride and [as] adornment. And He creates that which you do not know.And upon Allah is the direction of the [right] way, and among the various paths are those deviating. And if He willed, He could have guided you all. It is He who sends down rain from the sky; from it is drink and from it is foliage in which you pasture [animals].He causes to grow for you thereby the crops, olives, palm trees, grapevines, and from all the fruits. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who give thought.And He has subjected for you the night and day and the sun and moon, and the stars are subjected by His command. Indeed in that are signs for a people who reason.And [He has subjected] whatever He multiplied for you on the earth of varying colors. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who remember. And it is He who subjected the sea for you to eat from it tender meat and to extract from it ornaments which you wear. And you see the ships plowing through it, and [He subjected it] that you may seek of His bounty; and perhaps you will be grateful.And He has cast into the earth firmly set mountains, lest it shift with you, and [made] rivers and roads, that you may be guided, And landmarks. And by the stars they are [also] guided. Then is He who creates like one who does not create? So will you not be reminded? And if you should count the favors of Allah , you could not enumerate them. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.]
ALLAH said [ And Allah has extracted you from the wombs of your mothers not knowing a thing, and He made for you hearing and vision and intellect that perhaps you would be grateful. Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them up except Allah . Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe. And Allah has made for you from your homes a place of rest and made for you from the hides of the animals tents which you find light on your day of travel and your day of encampment; and from their wool, fur and hair is furnishing and enjoyment for a time. And Allah has made for you, from that which He has created, shadows and has made for you from the mountains, shelters and has made for you garments which protect you from the heat and garments which protect you from your [enemy in] battle. Thus does He complete His favor upon you that you might submit [to Him]. But if they turn away, [O Muhammad] - then only upon you is [responsibility for] clear notification.
They recognize the favor of Allah ; then they deny it. And most of them are disbelievers. And [mention] the Day when We will resurrect from every nation a witness. Then it will not be permitted to the disbelievers [to apologize or make excuses], nor will they be asked to appease [ Allah ]. And when those who wronged see the punishment, it will not be lightened for them, nor will they be reprieved.]
so after all those favors of Allah they refuse this is the evil

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Old 09-04-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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so after all those favors of Allah they refuse this is the evil
It all comes down to that single sentence. We agree upon what evil is.


Does anyone else agree or do some have different concepts of evil?
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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I prefer not to use the term evil, as it seems too tied to the concept of god for me to separate it. I am sure others will disagree.

I do find it horrible when people directly cause the suffering of others, with full awareness of the pain they are causing, for their own selfish desires.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Either you have the knowledge of good and evil or you don't. It's the human conscience.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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Evil is a religious term, and as such is imaginary. Bad things and actions exist in the world, that is true. But 'evil' presupposes a supernatural origin for those bad things, and that's frankly ridiculous.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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evil is deliberately causing harm, and enjoying it.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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Evil to many theists, including myself, is the deliberate disobedience of God(swt).


That is a very limited answer and I am certain others will have a more specific answer. I am also certain others will define evil as being related to the times and circumstances.

Is there a clear concept of what determines evil, that we all agree upon?

What to you is considered to be evil?

One way to determine evil is to look into what a person represents. I've seen Buddhists create an imaginary dragon that represents truth, honor, strength, courage, wisdom, etc... Then they get a tattoo of said dragon and concentrate on BEING the dragon, mentoring the idea of that dragon. If a person idolizes or mentors openly evil people, like Hitler or Muhammad, then they are doing the same thing less the tattoo. They absorb the deity, or the idea, what the mentors represent, and the sins of the mentors manifest itself through them.
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Old 09-04-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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One way to determine evil is to look into what a person represents. I've seen Buddhists create an imaginary dragon that represents truth, honor, strength, courage, wisdom, etc... Then they get a tattoo of said dragon and concentrate on BEING the dragon, mentoring the idea of that dragon. If a person idolizes or mentors openly evil people, like Hitler or Muhammad, then they are doing the same thing less the tattoo. They absorb the deity, or the idea, what the mentors represent, and the sins of the mentors manifest itself through them.
evil like Muhammad the problem name of the prophet in the bible and Torah ALLAH SAID [ Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it].]
ALLAH said [ And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."]
prophet Mohamed named in your bible prophet Jesus said by him self in this film the proof is very very clear do you know what is your problem you do not want accept the truth
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Old 09-04-2011, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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What evil are you looking for? Evil comes in so many different flavors...
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