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Old 09-14-2011, 12:59 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Yep. I sure hope none of his loved ones is ever sexually abused, because I'd be loathe to imagine what vile things he'd say to them after.

Want to know where that kind of thinking comes from? The "Good Book"!

Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

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If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

 
Old 09-14-2011, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Want to know where that kind of thinking comes from? The "Good Book"!

Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
Oh Neat! That's some mighty fine morality right there.
 
Old 09-14-2011, 01:15 PM
 
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I am just so utterly disgusted that a man could think a woman is 'asking for it".

And coming from someone religious it is even more repulsive, but somehow expected given their source of morals is the bible.
 
Old 09-14-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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Eye tracking results in the following. The first place a man looks is the face, the first place women look is the boobs.

 
Old 09-14-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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And women spend more time looking at the boobs and genital area.



I think you have a serious problem 007

More facts here, How Men And Women Look At This Half Naked Woman Differently like men spend 40% more time looking at the face than women do.

There is also a funny one where you can see the side view of a nekid woman in sneakers (no naughty bits visible) and check out how much time women spend looking at the shoes.
 
Old 09-14-2011, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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There is also a funny one where you can see the side view of a nekid woman in sneakers (no naughty bits visible) and check out how much time women spend looking at the shoes.
Well, naturally! Everyone knows that women pay more attention to buying shoes than men do.
 
Old 09-15-2011, 04:13 AM
 
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"even people like us KNOW it's not cool for a girl to expose her breasts to the general public."

Oh I think it is cool. Way cool as you cousins across the pond put it. What's not cool is the tongue - drooling reaction of the pubic to the bare bouncers and the even less cool prurient reaction to their reaction - with the rather hypocritical blaming of the woman for looking sexy rather than the man's reaction to it. Typical that the man should blame the woman rather than himself.

Society has to become a lot more cool about nudity before this can be done, but it's society's problem, not the bare bouncers. Ah...you know my views that society is cocked - up about the whole sex-nudity-porn issue and will never sort it out until we come to terms with the situation rationally rather than trying to deal with it through a sin - theory based morality.
 
Old 09-15-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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Nope. You're the one who trusts people so little that you believe they can't make their own choices. You're the one who doesn't respect people. And topless women have plenty of morality, by the by. They don't necessarily go around committing actual wrongs just "cause."



Everyone has to make their own choices and deal with the consequences that result. But the notion that toplessness equals lack of morality is false.



Again, blaming the victim. The one doing the assault is the one commiting the crime. Why do you hate victims? A rich person got robbed! It was his fault for having money. Someone got run over by a car! It was his fault for walking. Someone just got murderd! Maybe he should have killed himself before to save everyone the trouble. Ugh. You're disgusting.



Again, you're the one calling women wayward for wanting the same rights as men. You're the one being hateful and gross. You're the worst.
Youve been fooled by an out of control Culture and Media as so many others have. You are without a sure dependable Rudder in your life and will be tossed about to and fro as the whimsical winds of our moral-less culture dictates to you.
 
Old 09-15-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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(I'm not celibate for religious reasons. It has more to do with my lack of a sex drive )
Did I marry you once??
 
Old 09-15-2011, 11:19 AM
 
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"even people like us KNOW it's not cool for a girl to expose her breasts to the general public."

Oh I think it is cool. Way cool as you cousins across the pond put it. What's not cool is the tongue - drooling reaction of the pubic to the bare bouncers and the even less cool prurient reaction to their reaction - with the rather hypocritical blaming of the woman for looking sexy rather than the man's reaction to it. Typical that the man should blame the woman rather than himself.

Society has to become a lot more cool about nudity before this can be done, but it's society's problem, not the bare bouncers. Ah...you know my views that society is cocked - up about the whole sex-nudity-porn issue and will never sort it out until we come to terms with the situation rationally rather than trying to deal with it through a sin - theory based morality.
You know I fully agree with your views on sex-nudity-porn 'QUIPA...especially as respects those that use religious dogma to set their views for them--But that's not the issue here.

AS USUAL...I'm being my pragmatic self.

How people in this particular society SHOULD view a topless girl, is inconsequential to how it's KNOWN they WILL view a topless girl in this particular society...when making a determination whether it would be okay for a girl to go around and about with her breasts exposed to the general public.

The issues raised as to the potential negative ramifications are legit.

It's not cool, nor legal, to mug people and roll them for their money/jewelry...but that doesn't mitigate MY ignorance and lack of prudence if I walk through a ghetto at 3AM, wearing an Armani suit, diamond rings, and a Rolex watch, with a wad of cash bulging my pocket...even though I would be doing nothing wrong, and it would be those that rob me that would be the only one's at fault.

REALITY over CONCEPTUAL IDEALS is best when making decisions about such things.
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