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...Not if you look at a map and realize that the Levant actually sits at exactly the confluence of those three continents. If it had also been written in Australia or North America... now that would have been unbelievable. Unless you are a Mormon.
Perhaps you want to make an effort to justify that view? Because it betrays a certain detachment from the evidence.
Evidence, what evidence? Its still just a theory, one of which its co-founder, Alfred Russell Wallace, withdrew from. Explain to me when and where and WHO proved the theory.
Evidence, what evidence? Its still just a theory, one of which its co-founder, Alfred Russell Wallace, withdrew from. Explain to me when and where and WHO proved the theory.
Well anyway, just how is Atheism proof of God? Well thats like asking which came first, the chicken or the egg? Obviously the chicken was created first, who then produced the first egg. Conversely, belief in God came first, which then produced unbelief. Unbelief came from belief, thus Atheism came from Theism. In fact, even in spelling the term" A Theism", Theism is the dominant filling of the term. Belief was dominant in humanity when we first came on the scene, and still is. Because Theism gave birth to Atheism, and is the dominant, Theism gets the nod as to is God real or not. Atheism then must submit , by history and dominance, to its predesessor. Its dominant side which attracts it so much back to it.
Where does one start? Perhaps by describing the some of the many independent categories of evidence, and then inviting you to a focused discussion on the details of one of them.
There's the evidence from:Genetics
Paleontology
Comparative anatomy
Biostratigraphy
Biogeography
Biochemistry
Which category would you most like to explore?
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Its still just a theory, one of which its co-founder, Alfred Russell Wallace, withdrew from. Explain to me when and where and WHO proved the theory.
Another mystic who does not know what "theory" means. Sigh.
There is no such thing as a "proven theory." There is only greater or lesser confidence in theories based on the only two tools at our disposal; evidence and reason. But science is always tentative and subject to revision.
Based on evidence and reason biological evolution is among the most powerfully confirmed theories in all of science. Our confidence is very high... way up their with Einstein's theory of Gravity.
PS. Alfred Russel Wallace went to his grave as a evolutionist.
Well anyway, just how is Atheism proof of God? Well thats like asking which came first, the chicken or the egg? Obviously the chicken was created first, who then produced the first egg.
Nonsense.
We know from the fossil record that eggs predate the first chicken by hundreds of millions of years.
The first chicken hatched from an egg that was laid by something that was not a chicken; i.e. the egg came first.
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Conversely, belief in God came first, which then produced unbelief. Unbelief came from belief, thus Atheism came from Theism.
Not possible.
The universe existed independently of even a human capacity for belief for billions of years. It was irremediably atheistic. Hence... atheism came first. Theism was the later innovation.
PS. I'm not sure you know what "conversely" means.
Evidence, what evidence? Its still just a theory, one of which its co-founder, Alfred Russell Wallace, withdrew from. Explain to me when and where and WHO proved the theory.
Scientific theories are not the same kind of thing as the theories that philosophers, religions, and the man on the street thinks of as a theory. Scientific theories are based on decades, and even centuries of built up emperical data. So it is not JUST a theory. The theory of evolution explains the FACT of evolution in exactly the same way that the theory of flight explains the fact of flight.
And Mickiel, science doesn't "prove" anything. Mathematics and philosophy is about proofs. Science is about gathering and explaining empirical evidence from observation and experimentation, not about proofs.
The universe existed independently of even a human capacity for belief for billions of years. It was irremediably atheistic. Hence... atheism came first. Theism was the later innovation.
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I certainly disagree with this. Back to our earliest recorded civilizations archaeology shows that belief in God came before unbelief. Or you can state " Belief in gods came before unbelief." And that still be correct.
Well the first on your list is fine, explain to me how Paleontology proves evolution?
The fossil record of the ape-human transition is exceptionally well documented.
It is supported by hundreds of thousands of fossils of thousands of individuals of more than a dozen hominid species. It is among the best documented transitional sequences in the geologic record, and could be easily falsified by contrary evidence if it existed. But no such evidence has ever been presented.
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