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Originally Posted by squall-lionheart
I am just beaing logical here !!!
That is why perfect order does not come from 'random or chance' ...
Just like you said : it would simply not work.
Place a cell in a suitable environment for a billion year and see if it can configure various organisms like we have seen all over us today !!
Believe me, I tried to understand how chance and random incidents can create a perfect ordered mechanical device but I failed.***
Everything on earth was created to serve us & ensures our existence .
Rain , rivers, groundwater, wells, metals, sunlight, wood, fire , Animals , Plants ... etc ..
All those things were put to serve us .
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Originally Posted by old_cold
All you are presenting is just the 'hole fitting the water' arguement.
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You betcha,
o_c! And even more incredibly, he accepts that one without batting even a single brain cell!
1) Your total intellectual failure to comprhend this does little to convince the rest of us,
squall.
The arrival of what you determine to be "perfection" is nothing but the accumulated end-effects of literally
trillions upon
trillions of trial and error tests, coupled with the relentless
elimination of the unfit, the less-than-perfect, when tested in real-life competition against an organism that is, by chance, better suited. This is
so easily understood that seriously, I'm actually wondering if you are
perhaps missing some critical neuronal complexes, or perhaps you are malnourished? Want a V-8 drink perhaps?
It's all those
mutations you seemingly can't get your unscientific, non-statistically oriented head around; you just assume one or two or five biochemical/genetic trial/test "balloons" maximum, over a few months, not even years, acting
alone in a single litre of cold chemical-free sea water out there amongst the
uncountable Bah-qin-tribbilion litres of same.
Whereas, in reality, yeah; it is exactly that,
but it's also times the same number of litres of nice luke-warm sea water, times the uncountable numbers of bio-active molecules all trying to get along and to form into unusual combinations, times the number of seconds per day, month and year, times 13 billion of those years...
But then you willingly throw up your arms and proclaim:
"How could all this work out so well? It's totally incomprehensible to me that it could possibly account for a good outcome absent some designer personality!!"
Really?
Well, maybe to the highly limited mindset, one that does not
want to accept the obvious, it's unattainable, but not to us who can and have thought it out. It's the obvious outcome, frankly, and it's equally obvious as to exactly how there's so many different versions of life. Why? Because there's a whole lot of different
niches to be filled is why! (BTW,
please... just this once,
squall, look up "
niches",
please, before we meet like this again.)
It all divergent and convergent and sympathetic co-evolution, and of simultaneous evolution pathways from long-ago different origins, but faced with similar conditions in vastly separated locations, in which to test and grow, and vastly different environments to test out in. The result will be organisms with similar functionalities and acheivements,
proof again of how Evolution works.
The whole thing about we here on God's earth being "placed" by Him at the perfect distance from the sun, with just the right amount of solar radiation & sunlight, and at the "correct" temperature range
(Q: what about conditions as variable as The South Pole's extreme temps and conditions versus the hot, humid Amazonian jungle? Huh? Both evolved suitably adapted life), The resultant humidity and all the other factors all pale into oblivion when you realize that, in fact, we evolved to fit the extant conditions, not the other way around.
Sheesh; you
are daft, man. Daft! The limits you've placed on your own self-education are stunning, and yet "telling".
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Wow! Logic Flies (out the window) Again!
