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Old 09-22-2011, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Capital Hill
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Although I am not Muslim, I would like to know what Muslim's believe about homosexuality.
This is what the Bible says about this subject:
Read:
I Carinthians 6:9-10
Genesis 19
Leviticus 20:13
Romans 1:26-27

Then the Bible talks about making compromising to the Gospel:
Read:
Galatiians 1:6-10
John 14:15
Revelations 14:12
Many protestant churches have made compromises to the Bible, specially when it comes to homosexuality, for the sake of political correctness.

What does the Koran have to say about compromises to the Koran and homosexuality?
I would like to hear from you muslims on this subject.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:09 AM
 
Location: OKC
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[LEFT]I would also like to know what Muslims think on this topic.

But I found it odd that you quoted leviticus in referrence to homosexuals, but none of these other laws which should be equally in effect:

Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)
Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)
Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that?
If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10).
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)
Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27)
If a priest's daughter is a *****, she is to be burnt at the stake. (Leviticus 21:9)
People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)
Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)




So do you only want to enforce the laws against homosexuality found in leviticus, or do you want to do ALL of leviticus?

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Old 09-22-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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Homosexuality is a sin and the result of a curse. There is no genetic component (look up Human Genome Project.) Homosexuals like everyone else is to be loved. Love the soul/person. Hate the sin. Sin destroys souls. Jesus is the sole physician that can help.

There are many that profess Christ now that will tell you that it is a choice - that Christ transformed them away freeing them from this curse. Look it up.

This curse looks to be associated with rejecting God as the creator. We all know God exists. We choose to suppress this deceiving ourselves leading to deceiving others.

"And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Matthew 18:5-6

Romans 1

"18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
"


The fool says in his heart, there is no God. (Psalm 53:1) He doesn't say it in his brain. There are plenty of intelligent people in the world that just do not "thou shall not" and accountability for how they live their lives.

This includes people in high places of authority in this life that have financial resources to push an evolution religious belief promoting Atheistic/Agnostic evangelists such as Richard Dawkins, et al.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:27 AM
 
Location: OKC
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I'm loving this thead already - it's sure to be a classic.

You've got homosexuality is a curse, you've got atheist really DO believe - they're just rebelling, you've got selective quotations from the OT. This thread is sure to have it all.

Kudos to you OP for giving us some good 'ol fashioned evangelical red meat on this rainy Thursday morning.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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Homosexuality is a sin and the result of a curse. There is no genetic component (look up Human Genome Project.) Homosexuals like everyone else is to be loved. Love the soul/person. Hate the sin. Sin destroys souls. Jesus is the sole physician that can help.

There are many that profess Christ now that will tell you that it is a choice - that Christ transformed them away freeing them from this curse. Look it up.

This curse looks to be associated with rejecting God as the creator. We all know God exists. We choose to suppress this deceiving ourselves leading to deceiving others.

"And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Matthew 18:5-6

Romans 1

"18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
"


The fool says in his heart, there is no God. (Psalm 53:1) He doesn't say it in his brain. There are plenty of intelligent people in the world that just do not "thou shall not" and accountability for how they live their lives.

This includes people in high places of authority in this life that have financial resources to push an evolution religious belief promoting Atheistic/Agnostic evangelists such as Richard Dawkins, et al.

Your type of religious bigotry, intolerance and hatred are why people commit suicide. You use a book of fables to tell you how to think. Believe in god if you wish but why do you need to have any opinions on the lifestyle choices of others. You and your ilk should be ashamed. Young people in this country take their own lives all the time and this type of thinking is the root of why they do.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Iran's answer to the problem of homosexuals. Is that what you want to see in America?



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Old 09-22-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Capital Hill
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Your type of religious bigotry, intolerance and hatred are why people commit suicide. You use a book of fables to tell you how to think. Believe in god if you wish but why do you need to have any opinions on the lifestyle choices of others. You and your ilk should be ashamed. Young people in this country take their own lives all the time and this type of thinking is the root of why they do.
Sorry, sir, I intentionally did not express my opinion nor anybody elses. So how can you accuse me of bigotry, intolerance and hatred? (Vinylly)
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: OKC
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Sorry, sir, I intentionally did not express my opinion nor anybody elses. So how can you accuse me of bigotry, intolerance and hatred? (Vinylly)

I think it's because you selectively quote the old testiment to argue against homosexuality, when you must know that the old testiment also tells you to murder children who curse their parents and other crazy things.

So why would you cherry pick the anti-homosexual laws, but disregard the others?

The most obvious answer is that you are trying to find a biblical rational to be against something you happen to not like.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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Sorry, sir, I intentionally did not express my opinion nor anybody elses. So how can you accuse me of bigotry, intolerance and hatred? (Vinylly)

Was it your post I quoted?
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Iran's answer to the problem of homosexuals. Is that what you want to see in America?


Wow. That's the "religion of peace" for ya... if by peace you mean corpses blowing silently in the wind, anyway, not to mention solid proof that god ISN'T great.
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