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Unread 08-19-2007, 08:49 PM
 
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Dead ends in my research

What makes people want to stand up and proclaim to be Jesus in the flesh?
I am writing a book and need to do some research on this very subject. One of the characters in my book is going to be person who thinks they are the Christ returned for his second coming. Unfortunately most of what is written about people, [men and women who have made this claim] is not good information for me to work with creating such a person. Finding the names of people, [men and women] who have made the second coming claim has proved a test in itself.

If you know anybody [male or female], have a name perhaps, please help me out. Even if you have a wild idea you would like to contribute, please do.

Skeeter :
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Unread 08-19-2007, 09:07 PM
 
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Dead ends in my research

What makes people want to stand up and proclaim to be Jesus in the flesh?
I am writing a book and need to do some research on this very subject. One of the characters in my book is going to be person who thinks they are the Christ returned for his second coming. Unfortunately most of what is written about people, [men and women who have made this claim] is not good information for me to work with creating such a person. Finding the names of people, [men and women] who have made the second coming claim has proved a test in itself.

If you know anybody [male or female], have a name perhaps, please help me out. Even if you have a wild idea you would like to contribute, please do.

Skeeter :
Sun-Myung Moon comes to mind...
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Unread 08-19-2007, 09:07 PM
 
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I grew up with a kid whose parents were strict fundamentalists (bible thumpers). He was a good kid but his dad beat him for things like masturbation, taking the lords name in vain, and many other religious faux pas that all kids do.

He went to a fundamentist college and was sent to South Africa as a missionary for a few months. Then dropped out of college, and moved into some woods a few miles from our old neighborhood. I used to visit him on cold winter nights, during Christmas break. He usally had a racoon or opposum, roasting over a spit. He really thought he was John the Baptist.
I felt that he dropped out of school to rebel against his dad, but he really thought he was John the Baptist.

His dad, had the police arrest him after a few months and had him commited to an insane asylemn. He escaped and showed up at my place while I was still in college. I got him a construction job, and his own place, but he was never the same again.

To be fair. His younger brother had no signs of mental illness, but did have massive integrity issues. Today he is a very successful businessman. I still have no idea what ever became of his brother John (his actual name). He probably was born with mental issues. But his dad throwing open the bathroom door while John was doing his business, then beating the heck out of him for it, was definately a contributing factor that drove the guy over the edge.
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Unread 08-19-2007, 09:20 PM
 
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He probably was born with mental issues. But his dad throwing open the bathroom door while John was doing his business, then beating the heck out of him for it, was definately a contributing factor that drove the guy over the edge.
What leads you to that conclusion?
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Unread 08-19-2007, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Tetons, WY
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You seem to know alot about what he does in his private time
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Unread 08-19-2007, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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Dead ends in my research

What makes people want to stand up and proclaim to be Jesus in the flesh?
I am writing a book and need to do some research on this very subject. One of the characters in my book is going to be person who thinks they are the Christ returned for his second coming. Unfortunately most of what is written about people, [men and women who have made this claim] is not good information for me to work with creating such a person. Finding the names of people, [men and women] who have made the second coming claim has proved a test in itself.

If you know anybody [male or female], have a name perhaps, please help me out. Even if you have a wild idea you would like to contribute, please do.

Skeeter :
I believe this guy claims to be the "Christ". When Googling, try different spelling: Maitreya, Maitraya, Matraya
False Christ, False Miracles Archive 2

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Unread 08-20-2007, 12:23 AM
 
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What leads you to that conclusion?
My goodness! You have to ask?

It's common knowledge that strict religious upbringing, similar to Throx's description, can send someone over the edge!

Most serial killers were raised by overly religious, abusive parents.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Anywhere but here!
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My goodness! You have to ask?

It's common knowledge that strict religious upbringing, similar to Throx's description, can send someone over the edge!

Most serial killers were raised by overly religious, abusive parents.
Agreed! It's one thing to try to do what's right, another to go to extremes .

And it's very sad, you're right! there have been many killers that were raised by extremist parents (from various religious backgrounds). There's a right way and a wrong way to handle things and the wrong way results in issues like Throx's friend or WORSE!
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Unread 08-20-2007, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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I grew up with a kid whose parents were strict fundamentalists (bible thumpers). He was a good kid but his dad beat him for things like masturbation, taking the lords name in vain, and many other religious faux pas that all kids do.

He went to a fundamentist college and was sent to South Africa as a missionary for a few months. Then dropped out of college, and moved into some woods a few miles from our old neighborhood. I used to visit him on cold winter nights, during Christmas break. He usally had a racoon or opposum, roasting over a spit. He really thought he was John the Baptist.
I felt that he dropped out of school to rebel against his dad, but he really thought he was John the Baptist.

His dad, had the police arrest him after a few months and had him commited to an insane asylemn. He escaped and showed up at my place while I was still in college. I got him a construction job, and his own place, but he was never the same again.

To be fair. His younger brother had no signs of mental illness, but did have massive integrity issues. Today he is a very successful businessman. I still have no idea what ever became of his brother John (his actual name). He probably was born with mental issues. But his dad throwing open the bathroom door while John was doing his business, then beating the heck out of him for it, was definately a contributing factor that drove the guy over the edge.
That is a really sad story.
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Unread 08-20-2007, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Dead ends in my research

What makes people want to stand up and proclaim to be Jesus in the flesh?
I am writing a book and need to do some research on this very subject. One of the characters in my book is going to be person who thinks they are the Christ returned for his second coming. Unfortunately most of what is written about people, [men and women who have made this claim] is not good information for me to work with creating such a person. Finding the names of people, [men and women] who have made the second coming claim has proved a test in itself.

If you know anybody [male or female], have a name perhaps, please help me out. Even if you have a wild idea you would like to contribute, please do.

Jesus of Siberia | The Guardian | Guardian Unlimited
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Sergei Torop was a traffic cop in the small Russian town of Minusinsk until 1989, when he announced that he was the son of God. Now he commands a following of thousands and rules over a large swath of the Siberian mountains.
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Novel Faiths Find Followers Among Russia's Disillusioned
Novel Faiths Find Followers Among Russia's Disillusioned - washingtonpost.com
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Torop, 46, is a former Siberian traffic cop who is now spiritual leader of at least 5,000 devoted followers. They have abandoned lives as artists, engineers and professionals in other fields to move to this remote corner of Siberia, 2,000 miles from Moscow. In empty woodlands, they are building from scratch an entire new town, where they pass their lives near the man they call Vissarion, "he who gives new life."

Russian government officials and religion analysts call his Church of the Last Testament one of the largest new religious groups in Russia, which has become an incubator of novel faiths since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

Thousands of new religious groups have formed all over the world in recent years as increasing numbers of people become disillusioned with traditional religions, according to experts who study worship trends. In Russia, millions of people returned to the Orthodox Church after seven decades of state suppression of religion, but hundreds of thousands of others sought new faiths for new times.

Custom-made religions spring up nearly weekly across the world, some attracting a handful of adherents and others many thousands. And whatever their god, gospel or guru, like-minded searchers are finding one another faster and easier than ever through the connecting powers of the Internet.
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