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Old 09-30-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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And Milton...can't forget about his contribution to it.
Again, the Bible predates anything Milton wrote.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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Why are Christians so afraid of the devil?
It has to do with why we love God.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Really?

The Bible predates the Divine Comedy by thousands of years. Dante wrote it between 1308 and 1321.
That is all true. But the concept of the Devil most Christians of today have is that described by Dante and Milton.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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That is all true. But the concept of the Devil most Christians of today have is that described by Dante and Milton.
Kinda.

In The Inferno, Satan turns out to be a prisoner of hell. At the very lowest circle of hell he is stuck in a frozen lake called the Coctyus. The lowest circle is for betrayers. In his three mouths Satan chews on Judas Iscariot and two other famous betrayers. You should know that The Divine Comedy is not canonical and really is just a piece of fiction. An epic poem.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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Kinda.

In The Inferno, Satan turns out to be a prisoner of hell. At the very lowest circle of hell he is stuck in a frozen lake called the Coctyus. The lowest circle is for betrayers. In his three mouths Satan chews on Judas Iscariot and two other famous betrayers. You should know that The Divine Comedy is not canonical and really is just a piece of fiction. An epic poem.
Again true. But today's Christian often has little knowledge of the Bible. Sadly many Christians are not noted for having much bible knowledge.

What many of today's Christians believe about Hell and Satan comes from
Dante and Milton, not the Bible.
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Western Christianty is unique among the monotheisms in the power it has attributred to Satan. In Judaism Satan is firmly subservernt to God & is never allowed to attain such near-omnipotent status. In Islam, Satan is a trival creature not to be taken serouisly, or he can or he can will be forgiven on the last day. He can never be an ultimate threat to Allah. But Christians here in the West have do not have that much confidence in thier God.
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:18 PM
 
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Again true. But today's Christian often has little knowledge of the Bible. Sadly many Christians are not noted for having much bible knowledge.

What many of today's Christians believe about Hell and Satan comes from
Dante and Milton, not the Bible.
That sounds like an assumption on your part.
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:59 PM
 
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That sounds like an assumption on your part.
Semi Assumption based on my Christian past. Unless Christians have taken a new interest in the Bible you will find most of the mainstream denominations place little emphasis on Bible study. Catholics make up over 1/2 the world's Catholics and at least up until the time I left Catholicism in the early 1960s Catholics were actually discouraged from reading the Bible. You will also find little bible interest among the Lutherans, Episcopalians and Church of England.
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:51 PM
 
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Wouldn't biblically illiterate church-goers have less reason to fear the Devil than their more studied counterparts?
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:39 PM
 
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Wouldn't biblically illiterate church-goers have less reason to fear the Devil than their more studied counterparts?
No because their exposure to the myths, fiction etc, would stand alone and actually make sense to them. Non-religious beliefs seem to be easy to catch. It is amazing at how many non-biblical quotes, some Christians believe came from the Bible.

"A fool and his money are soon parted" is not in the bible. The quote is a proverb found in the poem "Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry" by Thomas Tusser
"God helps those who help themselves" is not in the bible. The quote is by Sidney Algernon (1622-1683) in his "Discourses on Government."
"God helps them that help themselves" is not in the bible. The quote is by Benjamin Franklin in "Poor Richard's Almanac" of 1757.
"Cleanliness is next to godliness" is not in the bible.
"Money is the root of all evil" 1 Timothy 6:10 says "For the love of money is the root of all evil" KJV
"Spare the rod, spoil the child" Proverbs 13:24 says "He that spareth his rod hateth his son" KJV
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Matthew 7:12 says "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets" KJV

Add to it these quotes from HERE

SAYINGS
Moderation in all things.
Once saved, always saved.
Better to cast your seed....
Spare the rod, spoil the child.
To thine ownself be true.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
God helps those who help themselves.
Money is the root of all evil.
Cleanliness is next to godliness.
This too shall pass.
God works in mysterious ways.
The eye is the window to the soul.
The lion shall lay down with the lamb.
Pride comes before the fall.

Miscellaneous


The Three Wisemen
The Sinner's Prayer
Wedding Vows
The Seven Deadly Sins

All of these things are commonly believed to come from the bible, but are not in the bible. People seem to have a knack for associating anything that sounds Biblical, as being from the Bible. So it is with beliefs about Satan.
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