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Old 10-10-2011, 04:59 AM
 
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And all Jesus based faiths would say that you not only have to "believe in Christ," (which is actually a very vague thing) but you have to believe in certain teachings about Christ to be considered one of the group. For orthodox christians it's the trinity and his death on the cross. For mormons it's the belief that he came to America after his death to preach to the native americans.

Of course, mormons are wonderful people, but their teachings are not accepted by any other christian based group. Protestants and Catholics have much more in common with each other than either group does with Mormons.
But few sects accept all the teachings of every other sect, otherwise they wouldn't be sects at all. The variation in teachings is what makes each sect of Christianity a sect. The mainline belief of Jesus as the Christ or Messiah is what unifies all forms of Christianity into one larger category, "Christianity". If some sects don't accept some other sects' teachings--well, good, I guess--cause otherwise they wouldn't be two different sects of Christianity.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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Rick Perry's pastor friend Robert Jeffress recently referred to mormonism as a "cult" and that they are not true christians.
I don't claim to be a religious person, but how do mormons claim to be Christians when they don't follow the Holy Bible like the Christian religions do? Instead, they follow the Book of mormon and have completely different saints and historical figures than the Christian religions. I'm not even beginning to talk about the strange customs that they follow among each other. Isn't it being a tad "politically correct" to refer to them as christian?

Mormons use the book of Mormon as a compliment to the Holy bible, they believe in Jesus Christ as Saviour and the Jesus they refer to is from the Holy Bible.

They are as Christian as any other Christian who believes in Jesus as Saviour.

Christians acknowledge the cornerstone of their faith as Jesus Christ as do Mormons.
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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What do Mormons teach about how Christ came to be? Something about celestial sex?

Mormons teach that Jesus and Satan/Lucifer were brothers.

Mormons do follow a different Jesus and not the Christ. Don't let them fool you.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:15 AM
 
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What do Mormons teach about how Christ came to be? Something about celestial sex?

Mormons teach that Jesus and Satan/Lucifer were brothers.

Mormons do follow a different Jesus and not the Christ. Don't let them fool you.
Exactly
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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What do Mormons teach about how Christ came to be? Something about celestial sex?

Mormons teach that Jesus and Satan/Lucifer were brothers.

Mormons do follow a different Jesus and not the Christ. Don't let them fool you.

The "Different Jesus" argument has no merit since they say that Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible, son of God of the Holy Bible is our Saviour.

That fact is the cornerstone of Christianity. If Lucifer and Jesus were brothers is it irrelevant to Jesus Christ being the Saviour of the world.

Celestial Sex is not an argument against it, not when Christianity teaches of a divine impregnation of a human in order for his son to be born on earth.

Some use the different Jesus argument on me, but there is no merit in it, since I am also referring to Jesus in the Holy bible.


When you can prove that Mormons don't hold Jesus of the Hioly bible as the son of God and our saviour, then you might have something, but you can't.


Jesus Christ IS our Saviour, he is the Saviour of the world, and there IS only one, so there isn't a different Jesus in the first place, there is only one.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:36 AM
 
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Galatians 1:6-9 comes to mind when the LDS church is discussed:

"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel - which is really no gospel at all.

Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned.

As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!"

Hmm, Mormonism began in the year 1820 with several visitations from alleged messengers from heaven ...
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:38 AM
 
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Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned.

Sounds like most of Christianity for sure.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:43 AM
 
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No where in the Holy Bible does it say God had celestial sex to birth Jesus the Christ.

We are told to not add or take away from His written Word. Mormons hold the BoM in higher regard than the Bible.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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No where in the Holy Bible does it say God had celestial sex to birth Jesus the Christ.

We are told to not add or take away from His written Word. Mormons hold the BoM in higher regard than the Bible.

You can argue about their doctrine being true or not, you can believe it or not, you can make the case against it.

That actually is irrelevant to being a Christian.


Mormons whether what much of what they believe or practice is right or not still believe what Christians believe when it comes to faith and salvation.


Jesus Christ of the holy bible is our Saviour and they believe that too. None of what anyone is saying about their system of belief and doctrine changes that.

The reason that it is so hypocritical for a Christian to go down this road is because Christianity itself is full of all kinds of variances in belief, that IS why there are so many denominations and church splits. This group believes this is better than that group, so we are going to go off and start on our own and we'll do it the "right" way.

Yet, the only thing that has any significant merit in all that variation is a belief that Jesus Saves us. That is also what Mormons believe no matter how much other stuff you bring up trying to hide that similarity.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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No where in the Holy Bible does it say God had celestial sex to birth Jesus the Christ.
Nowhere in Mormon doctrine does it say that either. You obviously think you know a whole lot more about Mormonism than you do. Every time you post something like this, you do nothing but point our your ignorance.

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told to not add or take away from His written Word.
John's Revelation included a warning that no one was to add to or delete from "this book." The Bible did not even exist at the time John wrote Revelation. "This book" was the book that was being revealed to Him. It had nothing to do with a book (the Bible) that would, centuries later, be compiled from an entire collection of sacred writings. There is nowhere in the Bible where God forbid himself to ever speak again. How presumptuous people can be to try to deny Him that right and to use the Bible to try to support their refusal to listen to Him.

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...hold the BoM in higher regard than the Bible.
That is false. We regard them equally because we believe they both came from the same source. The Book of Mormon stands as another witness to the divinity and saving power of Jesus Christ. Why would you reject a book that does that? Right on its title page, we read that the very purpose of its existance is "the convincing of the Jew and the Gentile that Jesus is the Christ." That sounds like a pretty noble goal to me. I can't imagine why Jesus wouldn't want as many witnesses as possible.
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