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Old 10-11-2011, 04:33 PM
 
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God's idea of marriage

Matthew 19:4-6 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “[Bthat at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,[/b]’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

Which did the creator make the hermaphrodite?

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Old 10-11-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Well I guess we better get busy expunging all those divorce laws!
Why? The question was what the Bible says about it, I didn't say we need to modify the laws of the land.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:49 PM
 
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Marriage is not a only Christian institution. What of gay marriages in other faiths? Still opposed? If you are then you're a religious bigot. I can understand someone opposing gay marriage in their own faith on religious objections. But objection to a gay marriage in another faith? They don't have a leg to stand on.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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From a Christian POW? The Bible defines marriage as a union between a man and woman. It is that simple. Every time the Bible talks about marriage, it talks about man-woman union.

Sure enough. So it's good that "Marriage" in the good 'ol US of A is not dependent upon the Bible! It's dependent upon the Constitution. And there is something in it about "equal access under the law" for ALL citizens.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:15 PM
 
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Sure enough. So it's good that "Marriage" in the good 'ol US of A is not dependent upon the Bible! It's dependent upon the Constitution. And there is something in it about "equal access under the law" for ALL citizens.
Constitution would be another topic. This one is about "religious arguments". Let me help though: are you looking for "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"? No, it is not in the Constiution, it is in the Declaration of Independence, which is not a legal document.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: NC, USA
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The Non-Sensical Religious Arguments Against Gay Marriage

Sadly, some people have this driving need to feel superior to others. Insecurity can be dangerous.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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The Non-Sensical Religious Arguments Against Gay Marriage

Sadly, some people have this driving need to feel superior to others. Insecurity can be dangerous.
And when combined with ignorance the danger increases exponentially.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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Constitution would be another topic. This one is about "religious arguments". Let me help though: are you looking for "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights"? No, it is not in the Constiution, it is in the Declaration of Independence, which is not a legal document.

Wow. NO, it is YOU who have confused things. I AM talking about the Constitution - the LEGAL document - and NOT the Declaration of Independence. Again, I happen to know the difference. Specifically, I am talking about the parts of the Constitution that say this:

The Constitution requires states to give "full faith and credit" to the public acts, records, and court proceedings of the other states. If gay marriage is allowed in Massachusetts, Iowa or Cornhuskerville, it must be recognized by other states.

The 14th Amendment States: No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

This amendment verifies and puts into LAW the clause of the Declaration of Independence that citizens are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. Hence, the precepts of the Declaration of Independence ARE, in fact, now LAW. Thus, the statements in the Declaration are in fact a legal document.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:40 PM
 
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Wow. NO, it is YOU who have confused things. I AM talking about the Constitution - the LEGAL document - and NOT the Declaration of Independence. Again, I happen to know the difference. Specifically, I am talking about the parts of the Constitution that say this:
Confused about what? You said the constitutions says this or that, and I asked you if you meant the quote from the DOI.


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The Constitution requires states to give "full faith and credit" to the public acts, records, and court proceedings of the other states. If gay marriage is allowed in Massachusetts, Iowa or Cornhuskerville, it must be recognized by other states.
No, it certainly does not.

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The 14th Amendment States: No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. This IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
14th amendment does not quarantee right to gay marriage, marriage with animals or with objects. How you came to that conclusion is beyond me.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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Well that's funny, because Christians try awfully hard to modify the laws to fit their fairy tale belief.
Some examples would be helpful.
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