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Old 10-20-2011, 12:06 AM
 
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I want what YOU'RE having!

Does this mean you haven't solved the trivia question, either?

The water issue you pose...is connected to the plant...it is connected through all realms...it is the electrical maridian controller...that is why God said not to touch it...leave it where it was put...at the center of all dimensional plains.....But humans did not listen...and they removed it and ate it...the only one...lost...into one of the dimensional plains holding DEATH....Then God sends those responsible for the error into the error to get it back...because of you it is like this...right the wrong....give it back in the opposite way in which it was taken....sinlessly.

Surely the trick of the tale...same with Gilgahmesh...he and those who were in that kingdom knew how to use the plant...those who broke it down and sacked it, did not understand...and they abused it thinking it would make them like Gods...but it did not.....it is more how it is used in the ground..and by how it is sown....Love of life, Love of God, and the sinless soul sowing it to make holy Ground...where the connection to waters of dimensional bodies flow throughout the EU. (electrical maridian)..to gain LIFE ETERNAL....is this not so?...maybe I am wrong...But we have enough science today that proves Plants are not only Living entities, they tap into the water, and the sun in oh so many ways...take one of those entities out of the equation and chaos will arise!
Check Global warming...Check odd weather...check drought...check plagues and pestilences...check wild animals not getting their part or food and turning against us....reason...something being prohinited and used in the wrong context...frustrating the spirit to vibrate the wrong way....

Plants are intelligent...they helped create us out of the mud...helpers?...well some are, some are not....is this not why God made us?...to tend and keep the garden....seems to be a common threat of truth....if we do not do that simple act with all the seeds God gave....in a certain way...(Laws of the lands)(Covenants, Commandments to make us sinless to sow it back, and precepts).. it will never be sound...there will always be woe, wrath, plagues, and pestilences....wars, and of course false gods..and liars...to keep the people tied to sin, to which they profit off of.

Look...Canada...a land of said peace keepers...Just signed a deal to make their own warships...bids won by halifax...creating new employment...Warfare and weapons building?....something ain't gelling right in that senerio.....Trillions of tax payers dollars are going to be wasted on war.
If that money went to helping third and fouth world nations grow food, and desalinize ocean water making it productively agrowculturally sound..and in doing that gain allies...there would be no need to make any weapons for any reasons....remember The idol creates poverty....Giving solve for it!....greed and control of wealth is now in th ebusiness of killing people!...and they want to make it profitable!

How sad a day it is!...when something so simple to do...is not allowed to be done...sowing seeds for free..because it needs to be done....money does not feed people...nor do warships...when on brings down the basic truths...only sowing seeds and taking care of the living things provides us with the means to gain food.....it is all connected to the plants and animals....remove one plant from the chain of life...and it changes to a detramental estate of chaos over time...mutations occur...and sickness abounds....

Say it ain't so Joe...and I will call you a liar.

what about the curse of Cain...killing people causes over the lands who do the dirty deeds....Got fire season, odd weather, flooding..etc...reason?...hmmm...not to bright some people...but I see connections to something...a Plant..a very important plant...being prohibited, and others by stupid people...to make divisions..control trade..and kill people or imprison them....why?...$$$$$$$$$$ not something God likes to know....But there it is happening right in front of you...playing out like a story book....

The plants...very important part of the eco systems God made....eventually human stupidity will come to know their end is coming because of their stupid intelligence in the industrial madness, polluting the planet to make dead things more important than the living ones...turning the earth into a garbage dump and toxix swill of staggering conditions
...and they might change their tune...near that end somewhere....Might already be too late to change...might just be enough time left to right that wrong....mabe God is fixing things as we go along?...Some might find truth in Genesis and fulfill without even knowing...

Gilgahmesh might find his inkidu and call him friend....and return to rebuild his kingdom the right way all over the Earth and beyond....perhaps?...Got to have a big hope though...if warfare and weapons making is more important than the living...we ain't gonna see anything of God ,but our own demise....because of sin in making enemies and mistrust of our neighbours, instead of making roads to peace and friendship helping eachother come to know the truth and living together in harmony and peace!...we all want the basics free...as God said I give you everything...thus sharing and Giving...these two things are of God...but who follows them today in the western world order of economic stupidity and momument building?...again the monuments made...are more important than the people..for when a monument of wealth and corruption is knocked down...the first thing that is done is a call for war...while the ones calling for war...are the ones who made the terrorist by oppressing their trade ,and killing their way of life....destitution makes people do things they normally would not do...those who make people destitute..are the real EVIL....Think about that truth...that is what Money does on the other side of the coin....Giving takes away that coin completely....PEACE can be made...with understanding God and his word, and applied truths.

If God underlines Plants in Genesis 9:3 as Given...then why change it?
Acts 10:15 clearly say not to profane what God has made clean and given....So someone is making this error by prohibiting plants and calling them bad, when God said they are Good...which created detramentals in the eco evolutionary line of Life...to keep it turned to those detramentals so the profit off them....more pills any one?..more sickness?...more suffering?..no problem..more money needed to solve for...so give us your money...and we will try to bandaid the problem....but they will never change the wrong and make it right...to much money is based on that detramental....if there is health, happiness, and peace....where will they gain wealth?....Power?....and control of trade?......well there you go, don't need em anymore...no more taxes, no more cost to live...everyone helps eachother....to sow seeds, and stand sinless enough to be before God....now that is the test ...who can fulfill it?...watch out for the Evil ones..they have infiltrated the houses of God...and are now harming the children with their vile..and words of Lies....so no one fulfills.

Is this totally true?...well it is being acted out , if one cares to look at the big picture....why more ships of war?...don't we have enough?..and missiles? and war planes...and tanks...and guns and bombs..poisons and insergents on all sides.....isn't there enough murderers...and what comes from that act is more hate..more suffering more wrath and woe...costing trillions...

So...the plant although someone hates it...has to be reestablished into the eco systems sinlessly..and left alone by all....Peacefully...and with the right intentions and wisdoms applied....ETHANOL...clean burning fuel, hybrid electric cars and solar pannels on them working together....all combined..cutting cost of everything..That is utilizing the givens in a way that is benefical to the whole Earth and all living things!....and it needs to be done now!
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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The water issue you pose...is connected to the plant...it is connected through all realms...it is the electrical maridian controller...that is why God said not to touch it...leave it where it was put...at the center of all dimensional plains.....But humans did not listen...and they removed it and ate it...the only one...lost...into one of the dimensional plains holding DEATH....Then God sends those responsible for the error into the error to get it back...because of you it is like this...right the wrong....give it back in the opposite way in which it was taken....sinlessly.

Surely the trick of the tale...same with Gilgahmesh...he and those who were in that kingdom knew how to use the plant...those who broke it down and sacked it, did not understand...and they abused it thinking it would make them like Gods...but it did not.....it is more how it is used in the ground..and by how it is sown....Love of life, Love of God, and the sinless soul sowing it to make holy Ground...where the connection to waters of dimensional bodies flow throughout the EU. (electrical maridian)..to gain LIFE ETERNAL....is this not so?...maybe I am wrong...But we have enough science today that proves Plants are not only Living entities, they tap into the water, and the sun in oh so many ways...take one of those entities out of the equation and chaos will arise!
Check Global warming...Check odd weather...check drought...check plagues and pestilences...check wild animals not getting their part or food and turning against us....reason...something being prohinited and used in the wrong context...frustrating the spirit to vibrate the wrong way....

Plants are intelligent...they helped create us out of the mud...helpers?...well some are, some are not....is this not why God made us?...to tend and keep the garden....seems to be a common threat of truth....if we do not do that simple act with all the seeds God gave....in a certain way...(Laws of the lands)(Covenants, Commandments to make us sinless to sow it back, and precepts).. it will never be sound...there will always be woe, wrath, plagues, and pestilences....wars, and of course false gods..and liars...to keep the people tied to sin, to which they profit off of.

Look...Canada...a land of said peace keepers...Just signed a deal to make their own warships...bids won by halifax...creating new employment...Warfare and weapons building?....something ain't gelling right in that senerio.....Trillions of tax payers dollars are going to be wasted on war.
If that money went to helping third and fouth world nations grow food, and desalinize ocean water making it productively agrowculturally sound..and in doing that gain allies...there would be no need to make any weapons for any reasons....remember The idol creates poverty....Giving solve for it!....greed and control of wealth is now in th ebusiness of killing people!...and they want to make it profitable!

How sad a day it is!...when something so simple to do...is not allowed to be done...sowing seeds for free..because it needs to be done....money does not feed people...nor do warships...when on brings down the basic truths...only sowing seeds and taking care of the living things provides us with the means to gain food.....it is all connected to the plants and animals....remove one plant from the chain of life...and it changes to a detramental estate of chaos over time...mutations occur...and sickness abounds....

Say it ain't so Joe...and I will call you a liar.

what about the curse of Cain...killing people causes over the lands who do the dirty deeds....Got fire season, odd weather, flooding..etc...reason?...hmmm...not to bright some people...but I see connections to something...a Plant..a very important plant...being prohibited, and others by stupid people...to make divisions..control trade..and kill people or imprison them....why?...$$$$$$$$$$ not something God likes to know....But there it is happening right in front of you...playing out like a story book....

The plants...very important part of the eco systems God made....eventually human stupidity will come to know their end is coming because of their stupid intelligence in the industrial madness, polluting the planet to make dead things more important than the living ones...turning the earth into a garbage dump and toxix swill of staggering conditions
...and they might change their tune...near that end somewhere....Might already be too late to change...might just be enough time left to right that wrong....mabe God is fixing things as we go along?...Some might find truth in Genesis and fulfill without even knowing...

Gilgahmesh might find his inkidu and call him friend....and return to rebuild his kingdom the right way all over the Earth and beyond....perhaps?...Got to have a big hope though...if warfare and weapons making is more important than the living...we ain't gonna see anything of God ,but our own demise....because of sin in making enemies and mistrust of our neighbours, instead of making roads to peace and friendship helping eachother come to know the truth and living together in harmony and peace!...we all want the basics free...as God said I give you everything...thus sharing and Giving...these two things are of God...but who follows them today in the western world order of economic stupidity and momument building?...again the monuments made...are more important than the people..for when a monument of wealth and corruption is knocked down...the first thing that is done is a call for war...while the ones calling for war...are the ones who made the terrorist by oppressing their trade ,and killing their way of life....destitution makes people do things they normally would not do...those who make people destitute..are the real EVIL....Think about that truth...that is what Money does on the other side of the coin....Giving takes away that coin completely....PEACE can be made...with understanding God and his word, and applied truths.

If God underlines Plants in Genesis 9:3 as Given...then why change it?
Acts 10:15 clearly say not to profane what God has made clean and given....So someone is making this error by prohibiting plants and calling them bad, when God said they are Good...which created detramentals in the eco evolutionary line of Life...to keep it turned to those detramentals so the profit off them....more pills any one?..more sickness?...more suffering?..no problem..more money needed to solve for...so give us your money...and we will try to bandaid the problem....but they will never change the wrong and make it right...to much money is based on that detramental....if there is health, happiness, and peace....where will they gain wealth?....Power?....and control of trade?......well there you go, don't need em anymore...no more taxes, no more cost to live...everyone helps eachother....to sow seeds, and stand sinless enough to be before God....now that is the test ...who can fulfill it?...watch out for the Evil ones..they have infiltrated the houses of God...and are now harming the children with their vile..and words of Lies....so no one fulfills.

Is this totally true?...well it is being acted out , if one cares to look at the big picture....why more ships of war?...don't we have enough?..and missiles? and war planes...and tanks...and guns and bombs..poisons and insergents on all sides.....isn't there enough murderers...and what comes from that act is more hate..more suffering more wrath and woe...costing trillions...

So...the plant although someone hates it...has to be reestablished into the eco systems sinlessly..and left alone by all....Peacefully...and with the right intentions and wisdoms applied....ETHANOL...clean burning fuel, hybrid electric cars and solar pannels on them working together....all combined..cutting cost of everything..That is utilizing the givens in a way that is benefical to the whole Earth and all living things!....and it needs to be done now!
So, the plant of life is that corn stuff they make me put in my car now along with the gasoline?
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Old 10-31-2011, 12:33 PM
 
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So nobody has found the answer? Ah well....

Gilgamesh is just not read enough, I guess. Darn those high school teachers that forced everyone to read it, and thus gave them the idea that it was merely 'homework' and a chore. That's right - DARN them.

On an unrelated note - I hear that someone is making a movie out of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Gaiman? This is older, but interesting:
This Unnameable Little Broom (The Epic of Gilgamesh) - YouTube
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Old 10-31-2011, 12:46 PM
 
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It is all about these journey quest by Giglamesh(King of Uruk) and hid his friend Ekidknu who was created by the gods so Gig could not oppress the people of Uruk. They went on these quest to defeat the monstrous guardian and then the Bull of Heaven was sent to defeat Gig for making advances I believe to the godess Ishtar..

The part of eternal life is about him losing his friend Ekidknu, he was broken up about it. The statement we come across is "The life you are seeking you will never find". Immortality was held by the gods, not man,however Gig was noted for his building know-how and his cultic knowledge he brought back to Uruk from having met the immortal flood god Utnapishtin (sp ?)

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Old 10-31-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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It is all about these journey quest by Giglamesh(King of Uruk) and hid his friend Ekidknu who was created by the gods so Gig could not oppress the people of Uruk. They went on these quest to defeat the monstrous guardian and then the Bull of Heaven was sent to defeat Gig for making advances I believe to the godess Ishtar..

The part of eternal life is about him losing his friend Ekidknu, he was broken up about it. The statement we come across is "The life you are seeking you will never find". Immortality was held by the gods, not man,however Gig was noted for his building know-how and his cultic knowledge he brought back to Uruk from having met the immortal flood god Utnapishtin (sp ?)
You've got the general idea of the main Babylonian recension - though Utnaphistim (and there are various spellings) was not a god: he was a mortal, and along with his wife, was granted eternal life simply because he was the mortal who survived the flood and enable the survival of humanity. He just got extremely lucky, that's all. Through no moral merits of his own, he was chosen by Ea to escape the wrath of the flood being brought by Enlil. His reaction, after the fact, is pure poetry:

I looked at the earth and all was silence.
Bodies lay like alewives dead
And in the clay. I fell down
On the ship's deck and wept. Why? Why did they
Have to die! I couldn't understand. I asked
Unanswerable questions like a child asks
When a parent dies - for nothing. Only slowly
Did I make myself believe - or hope - they
Might all be swept up in their fragments
Together
And made whole again
By some compassionate hand.
But my hand was too small
To do the gathering.
I have only known this feeling since
When I look ouot across the sea of death,
This pull inside against a littleness - myself -
Waiting for an upward gesture. (Mason, Gilgamesh: A Verse Narrative, pp. 78-79)

Ishtar, was the one making advances on Gilgamesh, though! She wanted Gilgamesh very badly, but he knew the fate of her previous lovers and refused: this resulted in her becoming a bit angry, and bringing the Bull of Heaven upon Uruk.

You are correct about eternal life - it belongs only to the gods, not mortals. Utnapishtim (and his wife) only received it as a gift, and it was not reproduceable by anyone else. Gilgamesh had to reconcile himself to that fact of life: mortality.


The original trivia question, however, refers to a certain tablet of the Epic of Gilgamesh that is usually not translated as part of the main Epic - because it contradicts the previous tablets, almost an afterthought. It contradicts the entire point of the Epic, in many people's minds. I mentioned it, because it gives an interesting contrast to the Epic that people are familiar with - and in the hopes that some people would read it for the first time, or read it again, or perhaps dig a little deeper into what had been thought familiar waters.

So the trivia question still remains - but I have given a large hint in the preceding paragraph.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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If I read right, it is about Giglamesh coming across this man named Urshanabi who knows about this plant ,that if you prick your finger it will make you youthful once again, the plants name was "The old man meets the young man", this was after going so many leagues underwater did they find this particular plant.
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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If I read right, it is about Giglamesh coming across this man named Urshanabi who knows about this plant ,that if you prick your finger it will make you youthful once again, the plants name was "The old man meets the young man", this was after going so many leagues underwater did they find this particular plant.
Urshanabi was the old boatman - it was Utnapishtim's wife who suggested the plant of youth.

Come on - Perry, just break down and read it! It'll do ya' good! You'll be glad you did.
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