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Old 10-13-2011, 06:24 PM
 
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those who are of the world wont understand this but we do love and care for them. We would that they all come to Jesus. He died for them. What greater love is there than that. However, God must punish sin. I strive to be tough on sin while being compassionate to the sinner. When they are told they are in sin, they need to stop being so defensive. It is constructive criticism and God is using his servants to show them the right way. I long for the day when more people will listen and repent of their sins
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Being tough on sinners?




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I'm pretty sure god would actually consider this kind of behavior as being a first class Moderator cut: deleted hat...certainly NO doing "his will".

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Old 10-13-2011, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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those who are of the world wont understand this but we do love and care for them. We would that they all come to Jesus. He died for them. What greater love is there than that. However, God must punish sin. I strive to be tough on sin while being compassionate to the sinner. When they are told they are in sin, they need to stop being so defensive. It is constructive criticism and God is using his servants to show them the right way. I long for the day when more people will listen and repent of their sins
hate the sin,love the sinner,yeah right, tell that to the hundreds of thousands of Native Americans whose lives were taken under those very words. Those very words were used for any reason to try to eradicate the Native Americans and their cultural beliefs and Christian evangelist were the biggest perpetrators of that genocide. Christian evangelists speak with a forked tongue, just like a snake.

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Old 10-13-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Having read and heard more than my share from Christians of all stripes, and having been educated in Catholic schools for twelve years, I doubt the sincerity of anyone who claims that this is what they believe and how they act.
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Old 10-13-2011, 08:35 PM
 
Location: City-Data Forum
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all of them are descendants of theist pagans, it is easy to understand why they are they way they are. They wish to give blame to something other than themselves for their believes and actions.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I vehemently disagree with those who use this argument against LGBT people.

"Oh, I don't hate homosexuals, I just hate the sin of homosexuality."

Sheesh!!! Give me a break.

That's like saying: "I don't hate Jews, I just hate Judaism" or "I don't hate Liberals I just hate Liberalism."

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What is "sin" is defined by your own narrow personal religious beliefs. Do not force your beliefs on me. What you might think is a "sin" may not be a "sin" to me. Having said that, I understand that we do have freedom of speech and expression in this country and you have a right to your opinion.

If eating pork is a sin to you, then don't eat pork. Just don't try to prevent those of us who do eat pork from doing so.

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Old 10-13-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Hmmm...hate the sin,love the sinner. How about mind you own damn business and focus on your own short-comings?

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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We're all sinnners. Most of us Christians understand that and realize that it's not our job to judge others, as none of us lead lives without sin. Christ spent vast amounts of time living among sinners -- thieves, prostitutes, liars, etc. and showed them compassion rather than judgment. Those who shun or condemn others based on their sin or lifestyle are hypocrites by giving their own sins a pass. That doesn't mean there isn't a loud minority of Christians that make the rest of us look like hateful bigots. We despise the Westboro Baptists. They're not Christians, they're a hate group masquerading as Christians.

Consider that there are several billion followers of the Bible on this planet; 225 million in the United States alone. If Christians as a whole were the threat we're made out to be, the United States would be a full Theocracy. The truth is that most Christians are normal, average people. The vocal minority of rabid, judgmental Evangelicals do not represent mainstream Christianity and in fact, their behavior defies the will of God and the teachings of the Bible. We're instructed to love our neighbors, not judge and shun them.

Some use the Bible to justify their hatred against homosexuals or minorities, but they're just bigots hiding behind the Bible. God loves everyone regardless of their sin and we're expected to do the same. Easier said than done in many instances (it's hard to show compassion for a child molester or thief), but that's part of the challenge. We're not perfect, and we're not expected to be, but we can always strive to lead a better life.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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hate the sin, love the sinner
Easier said than done, but that is the point! Jesus was considered a radical teacher because his teachings were designed to go totally against the grain of human nature. And who would understand human nature better than God Himself? I don't think I could compartmentalize my thoughts & emotions like that.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:30 AM
 
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hate the sin, love the sinner
It's funny how the bible beaters that keep saying that express it by telling the individual "you're an abomination, and you're going to burn in hell"
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