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Exactly. Just like using science to test anything else.
Funny, since you just told us how to do so. See, you don't really need our help to figure this stuff out, you've known it all along.
Probably known all along: if you are politically Part of the Event. The probability is out of ignorance for the unsuitable event to the historical decision of suitable morality for the culture in question.
Probably known all along: if you are politically Part of the Event. The probability is out of ignorance for the unsuitable event to the historical decision of suitable morality for the culture in question.
Without a spiritual stumbles every constant. The polar variant doctors the characteristic around a floating syndicated political event.
Really? You are? You wouldn't know you were talking about the SM from reading your post. I just replied in kind. You didn't understand it?
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I see you're still waiting for the Obermann.
What is this "the Obermann"? Is "the Obermann" another phrase that means a coherent sentence? If so, then yes, I am waiting for "the Obermann." I hope "the Obermann" shows up in your posts. In the words of "the Lumbergh" ... "uhhhh, yeah, that'd be great."
Oh yeah; I remember reading this one point of yours very early this morning, and I just had to come in from work and comment on it. Sorry for the delay! (I've edited out all the other stuff...)
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Originally Posted by KingDavid8
The amusing thing is that I think you honestly believe what you just said to be true. I've seen people say such ridiculous things in order to get some kind of response, despite their knowing it's total hogwash, but I think you actually mean it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
As I recall, you were referring to my statement about being completely content with not necessarily knowing everything, about not having some glorified perspective about the existence of a heavenly afterlife, etc., and being able to doze of each night to a peaceful, not fitful, atheists' sleep.
Your response, that this is ridiculous, tells me so very much about you, in fact. It completely confirms what I've said all along, that Christians just cannot accept there's potentially nowhere to go after this apparently miserable (to them, anyways..) life, and so they are very creative and inventive about defending that beloved (and critically necessary) myth. Else, it'll all be to no avail for them, literally. and the depths of that personal belief is that to you, anyone who claims to not believe it is delusional and ridiculous. Yup. That's me!
Well, on that note, you have my sincere condolences. We atheists, knowing there really is no such handy soul-saving process awaiting even those who "religiously' tow the line, must therefore, of needs, come to some other peaceful conclusion.
No, we don't look forward to death, but we can and do realize this life, the one we're in now, is frankly all there is. You could even say, relative to the OP here, that the SM has proven that. Logically.
But even if there is some omnipotent deity, he surely didn't bother making up some paint-by-numbers afterlife heaven for the uncountable trillions-plus of those who have already died [with countless more en-route...] . (But, hedging my bets; if He has wasted that much time, I hope Steve Jobs can now work with Him on a good intuitive Apple-App to sort out everyone; every pet, all those sentient monkeys and gorillas and polar bears and so on, that are wandering around, bored as all git-out. I mean, what DO you do up there all day long after, say, 12M years, with no end in sight? I can only stand Oprah for so long after all...).
Really? You are? You wouldn't know you were talking about the SM from reading your post. I just replied in kind. You didn't understand it?
What is this "the Obermann"? Is "the Obermann" another phrase that means a coherent sentence? If so, then yes, I am waiting for "the Obermann." I hope "the Obermann" shows up in your posts. In the words of "the Lumbergh" ... "uhhhh, yeah, that'd be great."
From the investigative office's of Perferrsor Blue Hue
Obermann was a rank of the German Schutzstaffel which was used between the years 1942 and 1945.
The rank of Obermann was exclusive to the Allgemeine-SS. It is equivalent to the Waffen-SS rank of Oberschütze.
The insignia for Obermann was a silver pip centered on the upper left sleeve of the grey SS field uniform. Some photographic evidence indicates this insignia was also worn on the black parade uniform, were it would be centered on the sleeve above the swastika armband. However, more often than not, an Obermann wearing the black SS uniform would not display additional insignia other than the blank collar patch of an SS-Mann.
From the investigative office's of Perferrsor Blue Hue
Obermann was a rank of the German Schutzstaffel which was used between the years 1942 and 1945.
The rank of Obermann was exclusive to the Allgemeine-SS. It is equivalent to the Waffen-SS rank of Oberschütze.
The insignia for Obermann was a silver pip centered on the upper left sleeve of the grey SS field uniform. Some photographic evidence indicates this insignia was also worn on the black parade uniform, were it would be centered on the sleeve above the swastika armband. However, more often than not, an Obermann wearing the black SS uniform would not display additional insignia other than the blank collar patch of an SS-Mann.
Prove to me from reported or recorded evidence that it was between exactly those dates. Then determine the values of judgment by which the subject develops. Is your point we wait for him?
Supernatural is defined as "of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially: of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil".
And since there is no unambigous emperic evidence that anything exists beyond the visible observable universe (dark matter and energy not withstanding), from an emperical point of view, there is no reasonable scientific argument that supports the notion that the word supernatural actually describes anything real and tangible.
But your second paragraph is completely vacuous. There is no way to find unambigous emperic evidence beyond the obserable universe, by the very definition of the words you use. We are again back to saying that everything that has been detected has been detectable things. Of course that's true, but it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't prove anything.
I'm NOT saying that what you are claiming is untrue, only that it is irrelevant to whether or not the supernatural or unnatural actually exists. It's a fallacious argument because of the way you define the terms, in my opinion.
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Oh yeah; one more little point....
