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Old 12-16-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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It's like a character from fiction entering the public domain. Anyone can write a novel about Dracula, and the character is the "same" but Dracula from Bram Stoker's Dracula isn't the same as Dracula from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

 
Old 12-17-2010, 05:46 PM
 
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With all due respect, LIONs LEAP, you probably need some antibiotics to treat that fever, 'cause your post is W-A-Y out there in Delirium-Land.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 10:49 PM
 
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rex is the name & there is no games.

Here & now


reX asks CATHOLICS & MUSLIMS one simple question



If a single Catholic can meet the following chalenge reX will fall on his face accept Allah & the pope and teach catholicism for the rest of his life..

OR

If a single Muslim can meet the following chalenge reX will fall on his face accept Allah & and the Quran & teach islam for the rest of his life..




Y DID.. CaTholics & MuSlims~ waiT~ unTilL ~800 -yrs.. AFTER /-Jesus ChrisT \~ To Declare …THAT Allah ~ Was God of the Bible ?

Y is it that IZZ SLAM B~ 4~ the 7th CENTURY has -no preserved record, BIBLES

-NO PRESERVED BOOKS-No Historic Maps-no geographic records-~-

Y is it that ~IZZ SLAM B~ 4~ the 7th CENTURY has -NO HISTORY OF ISLAM -no CHRONICLES -NO ARTIFACTS

Y is it that ~IZZ SLAM B~ 4~ the 7th CENTURY has -NO Genealogies of ANYONE

FROM ADAM…

TO …A bloody, WOODEN splintered RAPE staff .

OR a bloody SWORD ?


Y is it that U can SEARCH ~` Enternet & Librarys & …Thousands ~historic ~ VALIDATIONS~ for bible eXist

Thousands ~years AGO…

buT…

Y is it that NOT A single 1. ~/ historical FACT eXists to PROOV~IZZ SLAM eXisTed ..B.. 4./ the ..7..th century


Does archaeology support the Quran ? ABSOLUTLY NOT ! AMAZING Does archaeology support the Qur'an? [IsaAlMasih.net]
ARCHAEOLOGICAL ANALYSIS of the Quran PROOVES~ Quran to be a complete LIE / FRAUD / and IGNORANCE READ THE FACTS… QUR'AN'S ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE

The entire Quran is ~ ALL ONE HUGE Historical, and archaeological,~ ERROR Historical Errors of the Qur'an: Pharaoh and Haman
BIBLICAL HISTORY ~ Perfect & Correctly precise ~Scholars, Historians & Archaeologists ~GO TO THE BIBLE For Assistance, help and Reference


Y is it that NO ONE On The PLANET,~ HAS EVER GONE TO A SINGLE PAGE - in the QURAN..~ for Historical & Archaeological ~Assistance, help OR References..~ IT would be a LIE..

google the bible and history u get thousands of facts proving thousands of years......the bibles data is correct
google the quran ,..

.u have not one single fact....proving islam eXisted b...4...the 7. th century

See how Mohammad plagiarizes the bible & also IGNORANTLY ~ CLAIMED & wrote in QURAN~/ that the Jews Believed in Jesus;
How to discuss Islam with Muslims: The mathematical, scientific and historical errors



There eXists not even a scratch on a cave WALL on a single place on the planet.......

Proving a single creature Called or Served the God of Abraham....In islamic tradition
....................OR EVER ever ever,,.,,,,,even called The God of Abraham.....

.AS ALLAH......

WHY ?.



TO Catholics & Muslims THE SIMPLE CHALENGE IS

to proVe There eXists a scratch on a cave WALL,

a single ARTIFACT ( with pre 7 th centuy evidence )


A single preserved record, BIBLE or PRESERVED BOOK

A single Historic Map or - geographic record-~-

A single Documented CHRONICLE, or Genealogy of ANYONE


a single creature THAT Called or Served the God of Abraham...

.In islamic tradition

....................OR EVER ,,.,,,,,even called The God of Abraham.....

.AS ALLAH......

Before the 7 th century.....

Prove this & reX will accept Alla { ON THE SPOT ( then & there }

the God of Rome & Mecca...

reX swears it .....
 
Old 12-21-2010, 02:22 PM
 
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Mormonism ..has claimed that American Indians are the ancestors of Jews

But when researched SCIENTISTS have Taken DNA tests of Jews & Indians

Former- MORMON and molecular biologist Simon Southerton declared that the collection of Native American genetic markers are not consistent with any detectable
presence of ancestors from the ancient Middle East.

http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/DNA.shtml

Basicly The mormons lack of evidence is not LACKING but the evidence proves them
to have LIED & made false claims !

Muslims use this to JUSTIFY the lack of historical evidence in islam

I dont see your point. or understand your thinking. WHY you base ISLAMs lack of evidence on the back of Mormons false claims ?
?.

Also the Mormons BOOK/ NEW Bible ...CONDEMNS the practice of biblical POLYGAMY

Jacob 1:15 15 The ...... wicked practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many wives .........

Jacob 2: 24 Behold, David and Solomon had many wives ....... abominable before me, saith the Lord.

Mosiah 11:2 For behold, he did not keep the commandments of God, ,..... And he had many wives and concubines. to commit sin, ....and abominable in the sight of the Lord.

BUT Through out the bible POLYGAMY is Considered a blessing.

POLYGAMY is CONDONED, encouraged

. POLYGAMY is regulated with RULES and guidlines.


WITH This aditional contradiction and error . WHY COMPARE Islam to Mormonism ?


In my research I found MORMON & ISLAM compare alot

NOTICE


Tabari II:21 “......[Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair.

Noah prayed that the hair OF HAM’S ( AFRICAN }~~ DESCENDANTs would not grow beyond their ears,


and that whenever his descendants met the children of Shem, the latter would ENSLAVE THEM.”


"I heard the Apostle say: 'WHOEVER WANTS TO SEE SATAN SHOULD LOOk at Nabtal!'
He was A BLACK MAN with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, AND DARK RUDDY cheeks...
~~~~~~~~
.
" [9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, 'If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's.'"


Tabari IX:69 " ARABS ARE THE MOST NOBLE PEOPLE IN LINEAGE, the most PROMINENT, and THE BEST IN DEEDS. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet.

MORMONS Joseph Smith IN COMPLETE Similarity to ISLAM... DECLARED…..SLAVERY OF BLACKS….. .OWNING SLAVES was Gods will.

JUST like ISLAM..

http://www.blakeclan.org/jon/greenoa...-on-abolition/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_p...Saint_movement


1 Nephi 12:23 (prophecy of the Lamanites) " became a dark, and loathsome, and a
filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations."
1 Nephi 13:15 (Gentiles) "they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto
my people [Nephites] before they were slain."

Islam & Mormonism are alot alike in many many ways....THey both are filled with claims
that contradict & go against the bible..
MORMONS even make the same eXact claim....AS Muslims do
..THAT THE BIBLE is in ERROR & they have the CORRECTIONs,,,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
it is very clear and OBVIOUS that all EVIDENCE proving ISLAM eXisted B..4 the 7 th
CENTURY is non eXistant
Ok..... I just wanted to know that for sure. & please correct me if i am wrong....
No records, BIBLES, No PRESERVED BOOKS -or Historic Maps- No geographic records-
~-
no CHRONICLES no ARTIFACTS & no Genealogies of ANYONE. ?
But for MUSLIMS to use Mormonisms Similarity as an eXcuse or UNDERSTANDING
only makes things more confusing. Pls eXplain ?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~
UPON doing a real Study with a real hebrew Contextual Language based format

We can see clearly where ALLAH & YAWHEA differ....



the meanings of words...

Ya—Allah / or \ Ya-Allah Hebrew 3280 ???? Roe. /.. A WILD, GOAT.

Allah ~ Ela ~Hebrew 427 ???? ~Allah- Oak or Elm Tree.

Alla ~~Greek~~ 243 Plural of -- /and, but (even), howbeit, indeed, yea, yet.

Halal ~~Hebrew 1984 ??? ~Halal- To shine give [light~ LUCIFER./ Satan

Ba^-lla ~~Hebrew 926 ????? ~Ba^lah- To terrify: - trouble, waste

Eloe / Eloe~~ Greek 1682 e?????´ Of Chaldee / Aramiac origin my God: - Eloi.

Ellah ~~Hebrew 426 ???? A Small / god.

'Elo^ahh~~ Hebrew 433 ????? ../ A deity.

IN THE BIBLE

CLEARLY the closer we get to HEBREW YAWHEA
& YASHUAH / JOSHUAH.
the closer we get to the God of the bible..

BUT the closer we get to ELO. ELLA & ALLAH we move away from GOD and move toward Goats, Trees, CURSES LUCIFER and IDOLS & other gODS .....

I dont understand muslims claim...

To try to relate themselves to Jesus or the bible..

If they relate themselves to abraham. & DECLARE all current historical data ALL biblical WRITINGS to be incorrect..


islam would be more understandable to me..

My neXt question is...

WHY DO ALLAH & LUCIFER HAVE THE SAME MEANINGS...
...
FROM BIBLICAL TIMES UNTILL TO THIS VERY DAY ...THIS very moment ,,,,

ALLAH & LUCIFER HAVE THE SAME MEANINGS......
NOTICE the root words of of the following words ..connecting
SOURCES from the

SAME eXact Hemisphere and same part of the GLOBE ..

Halo, ..Hologram,... Halogen, Aladdin, HALLAL, ...Halley's Comet,... Hallucination, Haloid,
Haloscope, or Halometer..., Halogenation, Halite, Haliograph, Heliography,
Hallucinogenics, Hallucinating,... Hallucinator, Hallucinatory, Hallucinogen,
Hallucinogenic, Hallucinoses, Hallucinosis, Halesia, Luculent, Lucis, Lucifugous,
Lucerna lamp Luzerno, Luciform, Lucid, Leucine, Lucite, Lucent, Luscher, LUSCA,
Lucien, Luminescence, Lucentis, Lucifer


Halo........A luminous circle, usually prismatically colored, round the sun or moon,
Hologram......Illuminating AN object with coherent light Halogen..... lamp...LIGHT
Aladdin......ONE WITH a magic lamp OR LIGHT OR FIRE
HALLAL......LUCIFER...SHINING OR BRIGHT OR GLORY
Halley's Comet......a FIERY OBJECT IN SPACE ...GLOWING AND SHINING
Hallucination.... visual~ illusion,- images.
Haloid.....Form of a halogen Haloscope or Halometer.... Instrument to read bright spots
of light in the sky, often on a luminous ring or halo Halogenation....... Creation of
Halogen substance
Halesia - A tree with white bright flowers. Halite - naturally occurring crystalline shine
Haliograph - using mirrors and light for communications Heliography - photographic
process in relation to exposure to light
Halothane....... A vapour fluorine that is unstable in light
Haloing....... A circular band of colored light around a light source
Halon-......carbons used as fire-extinguishing agents.
Halation.....tricks of lighting. Hallucination.... visual~ illusion,-
images.
Lucent.......Giving off light Luscher.....light-absorbing testing
LUSCA....... Italian.Baby name.... Meaning: Bringer Of Light. /
Lucifer Lucifer...... an Italian word meaning Light
Lucien.........Italian.Baby name. Lucent....... .Giving off light;
luminous Luminescence The emission of light Lucentis....... Loss of light.
Luculent - bright; shining Lucis - light Lucifugous - light- shunning or avoiding
Lucerna lamp) oil lamps Luzerno - glowworm (the plant was so called in allusion to its bright seeds);
Luciform- Having, in some respects, the nature of light; resembling light
Lucid- suffused with light
Leucine- a white crystalline essential amino acid Lucite - rings -a synthetic organic effected by light


Allah & Lucifer are the same IN HISTORICAL meaning & definition..

ALLAH & LUCIFER HAVE THE SAME MEANINGS.....

Lucifer / Halla

Allah is in the bible Halal ~~Hebrew 1984 ~Halal- To shine give [light~ LUCIFER./ Satans glory....

these connecting SOURCES are all from the SAME eXact Hemisphere and same part of the GLOBE ..

These Societies socially developed the similar language roots HAVING many many

ROOT words following an EXACT The cosmological String.

The fact is ~~~~ that ALLAH & LUCIFER HAVE very THE SAME & eXact MEANINGS......

FROM BIBLICAL TIMES / In the very Bible, In hebrew language / Allah refered to Lucifer /
SATAN

from Hebrew 1984 ha^la ' To shine; hence to make a show, give [LIGHT] praise, rage,
renowned, shine.

WITH Just a BASIC understanding, even of Root WORDS, BIBLE Beleivers & lovers of
truth can go to Gods word in Isa 14:12

( Isa 14:12 ) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, ({ Halla/ Hebrew )) son of the

morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Oh, Lucifer in hebrew Was ha^la .../ ...The ALLAH/ shine; show, [LIGHT] praise, rage, renowned, shine.

Thats perhaps why Muslims have the MOON....on top of their CHURCHES...

History books show....the arabians worshiped the moon..

The light,shining, reflecting.
I dont understand muslims claim...To tr to relate themselves to Jesus or the bible..
If they relate themselves to abraham. & DECLARE all current historical data ALL biblical WRITINGS to be incorrect..

I dont know why the muslims here continue to try to distroy the So called MAP
The reality they Continue to ignore

is the fact that ALLAH in the bible ALLWAYS means GOATs....TREEs....CURSEs....LUCIFERs / SATANS glory...

EVERY SINGLE LAST TIME

IT NEVER MEANS GODs or GOD
ALLAH in the bible ALLWAYS means GOATs....TREEs....CURSEs....LUCIFERs / SATANS glory...

The term ALLAH is never EVER EVER EVER once USED to discribe JESUS or GOD
NEVER
NEVER once USED to discribe JESUS or GOD

It seems so sad that MUSLIMS want it both WAYS

THEY declare with PASSION....& CONVICTION......the similarity BETWEEN HAllal & Allah

Discribing LUCIFER satan LIGHT from heaven

dont count....

..IS not even IMPORTANT to the discussion & reality..
.
They dont like it

. ITS NOT important & DONT COUNT......to them...

...But then they want to throw up the word Eloheem
WITH ALLAH ? .........(((((....OOH it sounds the same LETS USE IT ...____}}}

How disgracfull
......... ELOHEEM & ALLAH ARE no where related/,.
The 2 words are so so far apart....its not even debatable....

The term ALLAH is never once USED to discribe JESUS or GOD
NOT one single place in the entire HEBREW or GREEK
ORIGIONAL BIBLES
The
HEBREW 430 ?????

'e?lo^hi^ym or
el-o-heem'
is
Plural of H433; gods
in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article): - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~

. NOR IS ELOHEEM even GODS NAME

As you DEMAND ...IN ERROR ..... to begin with.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the CONTRAST between the words LUCIFER


& ALLAH / Hallal.....

BOTH Meaning light & shining.....
.
IS THE REAL TRUTH.

....HALLAL LUCIFER & ALLAH.......The arabian GOD....is the CLOSER realistic word
MATCH

THAN ALLAH & ELOHEEEM.
The arabians GOD was HALLAL../ALLAH .the LIGHT / MOON STARS..

the ARABIAN~~~ God was Not ELOHEEM...

.OR ( YAWHEA the biblical name of God }}}}}

it was ALLAH...the LIGHT / SHINING STAR MOON U SUN GOD

this IS THE FACTS////....in the bible

ALLAH is not GOD
ALLAH is in the bible...

the little variant CHANGE of SOUND of words...

IS ELOHEEEM..
NOT ALLAH
ALLAH
ALLAH is in the bible.
....& it means GOATS.....CURSES.....OAK TREES......LUCIFR / SATANS GLORY..
The bible is clear....

ALLAH is in the bible.
..
ALLAH is in the bible.

....& & IT IS CONSTANT...throughout the bible

ALLAH means GOATs....TREEs....CURSEs....LUCIFERs / SATANS glory...
IT NEVER MEANS GODs or GOD

They like to pretend the hebrew words ALLAH describing GOATS.....CURSES.....OAK TREES......LUCIFR / & SATANS GLORY..

Is suddenly not there & suddenly dont matter,,

But suddenly when Allah maybe sounds a little like

ELOHEEM.../...............


....TWO words NO WHERE CLOSE or related in any shame manner or form THROUGH OUT THE ENTIRE BIBLE....

then they try pretend the bible is incorrect...WHEN THEY TRIED to use it to JUSTIFY THEIR LIES.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 02:32 PM
 
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It gets lost in the translation.
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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YEA.....ITS NOT LOST..... But cover the eyes....PRETEDING to not see....

Still believing A LIE
 
Old 12-21-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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YEA.....ITS NOT LOST..... But cover the eyes....PRETEDING to not see....

Still believing A LIE
How do we distinguish between your missives and the rantings of a mad man?
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