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Old 12-08-2011, 06:58 PM
 
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No he's not.

Does that come in a greeting card version?
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Old 12-09-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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I'm not forcing anyone to think the same way as me (They know it's true but try to be ignorant) but they should respect the holiday.
Most people do - they just don't respect it in exactly the way you wish they would. Stop being such a control freak. There's no way what someone else believes about a holiday should have you so shook up. What's really the issue here? Do you feel powerless in your personal life and are acting out, or what?
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Old 12-09-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: FROM Dixie, but IN SoCal
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Christmas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Please read it before saying it's a secular/pegan holiday!
Actually, it would have been a good idea for you to read the entire article before posting the link! The article goes into a fair amount of detail about the pre-Christian roots of the Christian Christmas. There are a large number of pre- and non-Christian celebrations around the Winter Solstice, including some on December 25th.

I'm not saying that December 25th is ONLY a secular/pagan holiday; not at all. I'm saying that the Season (third and fourth week of December) contains a number of OTHER celebrations in addition to Christmas.

This isn't an either-or, winner-take-all issue.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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I'm saying that the Season (third and fourth week of December) ...
I thought that the Christian holiday season began as Thanksgiving ended.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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There is no religious requirement to do so.

There IS a strong minhag to avoid unnessary work on chol hamoed Pesach and Sukkot, IIUC.

I guess it does not apply to Hannukah. However the minhag America is to spend at least some time at home with the family on Hannukah. Perhaps a foolish minhag, but there it is.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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I thought that the Christian holiday season began as Thanksgiving ended.

the commercial and cultural season - i think there is a religious beginning, advent or something.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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christmas is a christian holiday that has roots in a roman era pagan holiday. Over the years its practices include some things from Rome, some christian practices, and some additional borrowings from non-Roman winter holidays. There are other winter solstice period holidays in other traditions some of whose only relationship to christmas is the time of year.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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What are the "Christian practices" outside of attending church services on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day?
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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What are the "Christian practices" outside of attending church services on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day?

I would assume that a chreche with Jesus, Mary, and Joseph has no parallel in the ancient roman celebration of Saturnalia. As one example.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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OK, fair enough. From what I've seen, especially recently, nativity scenes are usually reserved for the front lawns of churches and such. I see VERY few private homes with nativity scenes displayed. Maybe that's just me.
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