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View Poll Results: Die in place of someone who hate's you.
Yes 3 10.00%
No 27 90.00%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-20-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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Of course not. Nobody in their rational mind would do so as a straight up trade.

If there were extenuating circumstances, perhaps. If the person who knew how to cure AIDS, cancer and the common cold hated me, but had not had the time to write down his discovery, I would consider it. But then I am not dying for that person, I am dying for the larger cause of helping humanity.

If you are trying to draw some comparison to Jesus, it is weak. For the sake of argument, lets grant the gospel stories as true. JC died knowing that it was a temporary thing, that not only did he have eternal life (having had it previously), he knew he would still have eternal life, plus be raised from the dead in this one as well.

A better analogy might be: Would you suffer a minor hangnail to save your entire family from an excruciating death?
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I'd like to think I would....but I know I wouldn't. That's what makes Christ's sacrifice so amazing.
What "sacrifice" would that be?

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Is this some sort of attempt at painting Jesus in a better light?
I'd put money on it.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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Who voted yes? I've got a sweet deal on some beach front property in Kansas I'll like to let you in on.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I'd like to think I would....but I know I wouldn't. That's what makes Christ's sacrifice so amazing.
Kudos for mentioning Christ's sacrifice, my man!
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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Strange question.

If I was in a group of hostages would I volunteer to take _____ place as the first hostage to be killed, no way (pregnant woman excepted).

Would I perform an act that would risk me losing my life for a comrade who I did particularly like, I would like to think that I would having risked my life for individuals I didn't particularly like while serving the military.

But then again risk is a whole lot different than certainty.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Would you die in place of someone who hate's you?
That would be the ultimate expression of Christ. Too bad I'm a coward.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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That would be the ultimate expression of Christ. Too bad I'm a coward.
What exactly would dying in place of one who hates you accomplish?
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Who voted yes? I've got a sweet deal on some beach front property in Kansas I'll like to let you in on.
Actually a rubber room would be more appropriate...
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: TX
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I said No, not just because I don't want to die (but that is PART of my reason). In general, you'd do the world a disservice by keeping someone who hates ANYONE alive. Why save a hateful person, so they can go off and hate someone else and maybe even kill them?

The only people who should answer Yes to this question are those who are even more hateful.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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Oh I can see a "cos jesus did that for you' coming real soon...
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