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Are their any proclaimed athiest thinking about accepting the grace of god and become a christian?
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08-30-2007, 08:35 AM
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Location: Between Here and There
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I know your intent is good and you are reaching out to people. But I think if someone is searching for what God is then that makes them an agnostic not an atheist. Just thought I'd throw that out there. 
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08-30-2007, 08:42 AM
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Location: Oxford, England
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Why ! Are you looking to welcoming atheism into your heart and the grace of reason and logic ? 
I think atheists know where to go if they ever need preaching. Plenty of places about , and a wide variety of faiths, denominations and religions out there.
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08-30-2007, 08:51 AM
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Location: Nebraska
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Originally Posted by Mooseketeer
Why ! Are you looking to welcoming atheism into your heart and the grace of reason and logic ? 
I think atheists know where to go if they ever need preaching. Plenty of places about , and a wide variety of faiths, denominations and religions out there.
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The reason I asked is because I do know someone in this position and she does not know how to go about asking for help. I thought that if there was someone even 1 person who does not know how or is to shy to ask, then this would be a good place to ask for direction. No harm is done in asking. I am not here to change anyone and the only way a person can find grace is by god but sometimes people need direction.
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08-30-2007, 08:57 AM
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Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by lpdsag
The reason I asked is because I do know someone in this position and she does not know how to go about asking for help. I thought that if there was someone even 1 person who does not know how or is to shy to ask, then this would be a good place to ask for direction. No harm is done in asking. I am not here to change anyone and the only way a person can find grace is by god but sometimes people need direction.
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I know what you are saying, lpdsag. Most of the atheists/agnostics we interact with on this forum seem pretty satisfied with their choices, but you are right, there could be one or two lurking (who maybe never even post) who are seeking something and don't know how to ask. Good thought, lpdsag.
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08-30-2007, 09:49 AM
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Location: Oxford, England
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Why would you look for god if you knew he didn't exist, I don't really grasp that concept. You either are an atheist, an agnostic or a believer...
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08-30-2007, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lpdsag
The reason I asked is because I do know someone in this position and she does not know how to go about asking for help.
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Yet you have somehow found out that she needs help.
How did you find out? You may be able to answer your own question.
I don't see how any atheist could NOT know where to get Christian counsel; Christians are clearly patrolling for lost souls regularly (I learned that here, on the religion and philosophy board).
Good luck rounding up all the atheists who want to be Christians but are "too shy" to ask for conversion.
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08-30-2007, 09:55 AM
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Location: Nebraska
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Originally Posted by Mooseketeer
Surely you don't go looking for god, he finds you ?
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I agree, you can not go and look for god. He has to give you his grace so that you can get to know him (my opinion). I for one felt his grace present in my life but was not sure where to turn. I wasn't sure what steps to take to get to know god more personaly. I felt his grace and love and needed help on where to begin. I called my brother who is a very good christian man and he has helped be grow with my knowledge of the lord. Without him I am not sure where I would have gone. I have since started a church, bible study and put my boys in awana classes and I have never been happier.
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08-30-2007, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by b. frank
Yet you have somehow found out that she needs help.
How did you find out? You may be able to answer your own question.
I don't see how any atheist could NOT know where to get Christian counsel; Christians are clearly patrolling for lost souls regularly (I learned that here, on the religion and philosophy board).
Good luck rounding up all the atheists who want to be Christians but are "too shy" to ask for conversion.
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The problem with my friend is that she was not sure because of all the different views on what is a christian and what is not and who defines who is and who is not. She is going to have to do alot of praying and talking to god and I have faith that he will help guide her. But some things I was able to talk to her about. One of her biggest problems is she is in an adultress relationship because her husband and her are getting a divorce. He committed adultry first but that does not make it ok for her. She wants to lean on god for guidance but she does not want to break up the relationship that she is in now. As a christian, I can only tell her that I think what she is doing is wrong plain and simple. But this is hard for her to except. You can't believe in part of the bible and leave the parts out you don't like. She is my friend and I want to help her but it is very difficult. 
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08-30-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lpdsag
The problem with my friend is that she was not sure because of all the different views on what is a christian and what is not and who defines who is and who is not. She is going to have to do alot of praying and talking to god and I have faith that he will help guide her. But some things I was able to talk to her about. One of her biggest problems is she is in an adultress relationship because her husband and her are getting a divorce. He committed adultry first but that does not make it ok for her. She wants to lean on god for guidance but she does not want to break up the relationship that she is in now. As a christian, I can only tell her that I think what she is doing is wrong plain and simple. But this is hard for her to except. You can't believe in part of the bible and leave the parts out you don't like. She is my friend and I want to help her but it is very difficult. 
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You lost me.
I thought you said she is an atheist?
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