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Unread 01-03-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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I base my belief of man walking on the moon by faith.

What do you base your belief of man walking on the moon by?

This is just a philosophical question. Moderator cut: edit

Faith is believing the unseen. Are there any astronauts here?

Don't we all believe things by faith? If not how can you demonstrate that the moon landing is any different than Christ rising from the dead?
After my father retired from the USAF, he went to work for NASA. The first moon mission was one of the projects he was involved in.

At the age of 12 I was at the cape watching the launch with him. All of the conspiracy theorists with all of their doctored photographs and their "unnamed" sources can't convince me that it was fake. Sorry! Many of them had not even been born yet anyway.

I'm not big on blind faith, but having been there, I know what I witnessed was real.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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Okay then. I entirely base my faith in the lunar landings on hearsay.

What do you base it on?


OK youngin, time to put this thread to an end, I am an eyewitness, yeah you read it right, I'm an eyewitness to the lunar landing in 1969, I was at Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland with my cousins, who happened to work for NASA and we were observing the lunar landing through one of the many telescopes that they have at Goddard Space Flight Center, so I know personally that the event actually took place and that those astronauts did actually walk on the Moon.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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To the OP:

Accepting that the moon landings actually occurred is not the same matter of faith as that which religious people speak of.

faith

   [feyth] Show IPA
noun 1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.

2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.

Faith as in religion is definition 2 and 3. While acceptance of the moon landings would be definition 1 at best.

To not make that very important distinction is tantamount to LYING. Refusing to acknowledge that words have different meanings is ignorant and illogical. Shame on you.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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To the OP:

Accepting that the moon landings actually occurred is not the same matter of faith as that which religious people speak of.

faith

   [feyth] Show IPA
noun 1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.

2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.

Faith as in religion is definition 2 and 3. While acceptance of the moon landings would be definition 1 at best.

To not make that very important distinction is tantamount to LYING. Refusing to acknowledge that words have different meanings is ignorant and illogical. Shame on you.
Use whatever definition you want. It is still a form of faith.

Besides, My faith in Christ fits perfectly into the criteria for #1.

No lying OR shame here my friend.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 07:32 PM
 
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You're evading. Do you consider Gibraltar's existence a matter of faith?
Evading what? We are just talking here.

I have never seen Gibraltar, but yes I have faith that it exists.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 07:34 PM
 
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OK youngin, time to put this thread to an end, I am an eyewitness, yeah you read it right, I'm an eyewitness to the lunar landing in 1969, I was at Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland with my cousins, who happened to work for NASA and we were observing the lunar landing through one of the many telescopes that they have at Goddard Space Flight Center, so I know personally that the event actually took place and that those astronauts did actually walk on the Moon.
That is awesome! I wish I was around then so I could have done the same thing. Great story.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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After my father retired from the USAF, he went to work for NASA. The first moon mission was one of the projects he was involved in.

At the age of 12 I was at the cape watching the launch with him. All of the conspiracy theorists with all of their doctored photographs and their "unnamed" sources can't convince me that it was fake. Sorry! Many of them had not even been born yet anyway.

I'm not big on blind faith, but having been there, I know what I witnessed was real.
I don't deny that it happened, but us less fortunate ones that weren't around then, just have to take someones word for it.

I had a supernatural conversion involving Christ and I was there to witness it. So my step of faith paid off, now it is fact to me.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Use whatever definition you want. It is still a form of faith.

Besides, My faith in Christ fits perfectly into the criteria for #1.

No lying OR shame here my friend.
Of course there isn't but there should be.

Your "faith" is not based on any sort of evidence. That alone makes it very different than those that accept the evidence supporting the lunar landing.

If your faith was really that powerful you would not be here playing word games you have to lie to try to win.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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I don't deny that it happened, but us less fortunate ones that weren't around then, just have to take someones word for it.

I had a supernatural conversion involving Christ and I was there to witness it. So my step of faith paid off, now it is fact to me.
Actually, no you don't have to take someone's word for it. That is why no faith is needed to believe that men visited the moon...They left evidence that is still used today...

Ringed by footprints, sitting in the moondust, lies a 2-foot wide panel studded with 100 mirrors pointing at Earth: the "lunar laser ranging retroreflector array." Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong put it there on July 21, 1969, about an hour before the end of their final moonwalk. Thirty-five years later, it's the only Apollo science experiment still running. What Neil & Buzz Left on the Moon - NASA Science

I'm just not buying your claim of a conversation with a dead man...You were probably dreaming or hallucinating...Dead guys don't talk.
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Unread 01-03-2012, 07:48 PM
 
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I don't deny that it happened, but us less fortunate ones that weren't around then, just have to take someones word for it.

I had a supernatural conversion involving Christ and I was there to witness it. So my step of faith paid off, now it is fact to me.
You think you had a conversation with your skydaddy?
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