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Old 10-23-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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Looks like this debate is over now that science has found a way to create a viable egg in the lab using mouse stem cells (human eggs are soon to come):

Health roundup: Mouse stem cells become fertile eggs; Botox treats leaky bladders

So no more "Adam & Eve"... now we can have "Adam and Ovum"
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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The Old Testament has been in existence for almost 4000 years
obviously all our ancestors were absolute idiots
who somehow or other produced today's brilliant minds
who enjoy sh*ting over their antecedents

The Bible was written By Khabalist sages
it is a book of parables
to be interpreted at different levels of consciousness

the first level is that of children
which is were today's so-called objective scientists
seem unable to graduate past

the older one gets
the deeper each parable penetrates consciousness
and the more one learns about the hidden Truths underlying the human condition
and our relationship to the manifest cosmos
that is why it remains a best seller over the millennium
and why it has been studied and commented on
by the greatest minds of all times
including those at Mensa level

for the benefit of those who have slightly adult minds
the parable of Noah for example
relates to a necessary periodic cleansing
of the accumulated guilt of the collective psyche
(ie like America dropping an Abomb on women and children)
the Ark saving Noah and his family and the animals
is symbolic of keeping all that is Good
the dove brings the solace of peace
and the rainbow is the promise of a new covenant

Last edited by MagnetMan; 10-23-2012 at 06:51 PM..
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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The old testament was written from 800B.C.E to 100 B.C.E by bronze age Canaanites after the collapse of the bronze age city state system, who fled the cities and settled in the hill country which would be called Judah and Samaria. they would call themselves Israelites and Jews.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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Speaking generally

Script was not required in the Bronze Age - 20,000 BCE - 6000 BCE
which is defined by an oral-based agricultural economy
with society divided by clan totemism
ruled by petty clan chiefs.

Clan chief's spoken words were law
heard by all physically during clan harvest gatherings.

Oral based mythological claims of divine totemic sanctification
together with ancestral spiritual intervention
with psychically gifted shamans acting as mediums
sealed spiritual unity

The Bronze Age ended in fertile regions
when population pressures
escalated petty clan border disputes into outright war,
despotic warlords forced eventual clan federation
and the formation of the first national mind-sets.

For national union to remain binding
despotic rule was essential
in order not revert to individual totemic arguments of Divine favor,
a rigid Scriptural orthodoxy of laws
largely based on early oral-based mythological explanations
regarding Divine origination
was needed to rule the Union
and give the paramouncy Divine rights of succession.
A learned priest caste emerged
as interpreters of the inspirations of the early Scribes
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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It wasn't surgery, it was gods hand.
We are supposedly created in gods image.
these traits are passed down from generation to generation.
Many defects are passed down to the next generation and this was done by god.

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That dosen't make any sense.

If you undergo surgey, have a rib(or whatever) removed, and later you and your mate produce children.....would you expect them to be shy a rib ??

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Old 11-01-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MagnetMan View Post
The Old Testament has been in existence for almost 4000 years
obviously all our ancestors were absolute idiots
who somehow or other produced today's brilliant minds
who enjoy sh*ting over their antecedents

The Bible was written By Khabalist sages
it is a book of parables
to be interpreted at different levels of consciousness

the first level is that of children
which is were today's so-called objective scientists
seem unable to graduate past

the older one gets
the deeper each parable penetrates consciousness
and the more one learns about the hidden Truths underlying the human condition
and our relationship to the manifest cosmos
that is why it remains a best seller over the millennium
and why it has been studied and commented on
by the greatest minds of all times
including those at Mensa level

for the benefit of those who have slightly adult minds
the parable of Noah for example
relates to a necessary periodic cleansing
of the accumulated guilt of the collective psyche
(ie like America dropping an Abomb on women and children)
the Ark saving Noah and his family and the animals
is symbolic of keeping all that is Good
the dove brings the solace of peace
and the rainbow is the promise of a new covenant
That's a whole lot verbiage saying absolutely nothing.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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That's a whole lot verbiage saying absolutely nothing.

a spiritual ethic
unraveled from an enigmatic biblical parable
about the cleansing of collective guilt
so that society as a whole
can move on to better things
and this bozo does not get it

absolutely culturally shallow
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:50 PM
 
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a spiritual ethic
unraveled from an enigmatic biblical parable
about the cleansing of collective guilt
so that society as a whole
can move on to better things
and this bozo does not get it

absolutely culturally shallow
I certainly hope that you are referring to me because....


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Script was not required in the Bronze Age - 20,000 BCE - 6000 BCE
which is defined by an oral-based agricultural economy
with society divided by clan totemism
ruled by petty clan chiefs.
The Bronze Age was 3600-300 BCE depending upon what part of the world you pick and writing was quite evident during that period.

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Clan chief's spoken words were law
heard by all physically during clan harvest gatherings.
Code of Hammurabi was written circa 1750 BCE

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The Old Testament has been in existence for almost 4000 years
obviously all our ancestors were absolute idiots
who somehow or other produced today's brilliant minds
who enjoy sh*ting over their antecedents
First you've gotten another date wrong but aside from that even the Old Testament demonstrates that our ancestors were anything but idiots because the as literature the Torah demonstrates a high degree of intelligence.

That aside, it still is a lot of verbiage saying not much of anything.
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