What Do Think Of Animal Sacrifices For Religion? (souls, beliefs, mercy)

[firstborn888]

Originally Posted by whoppers

Oh don't get technical..... it hurts my head.
I know you said "can" heh heh. I was still giving reasons anyways.
Just 'cause I can!

I challenge you to a hot-dog eating contest! If you win - I will stop eating meat and become a Vegan! Do we have a deal? (why is there no "devil" emoticon - rats!)

I would - but those tofu hotdogs (the only kind I would eat) taste TERRIBLE!!!

BTW - I was a avid meant eater for almost 50 years (and was even known to heckle vegans from time to time) so every time I get a negative response to my assertions I see can myself thinking the exact same way a few short years ago. Weird how things can change so drastically.

[whoppers]

Originally Posted by firstborn888

I would - but those tofu hotdogs (the only kind I would eat) taste TERRIBLE!!!

BTW - I was a avid meant eater for almost 50 years (and was even known to heckle vegans from time to time) so every time I get a negative response to my assertions I see can myself thinking the exact same way a few short years ago. Weird how things can change so drastically.

Ha ha! Foiled again!

The chaning of minds, though - The sins of our youth. We should keep journals and refer to them every couple years to remind us how foolish we were/are heh heh! I guess that's what happens when anyone changes - out with the old, in with the new. It's only new to us, though - and it's usually someone else's "old".

[pamelaBeurman]

Originally Posted by firstborn888

I get that my opinion is unpopular. I assume you do a much better job at being humane in the raising and killing of your animals than the big factory farms do - but let me ask you this: does the horrible cruelty which befalls billions of animals raised and slaughtered for food (10,000,000,000 per year in the U.S. alone) bother you?

Of course it bothers me. Why do you think we raise our own animals?

I realize that not everyone has a ranch/farm and the opportunity to raise their own food. The commercial meat industry is needed, the barbarism that it involves isn't.

With all of our technological advances we should be able to find a way to make the slaughtering process more humane, but that would cost big bucks and these companies worry too much about their bottom line.

That still doesn't give you the right to try and enforce your dietary choices on others. If they choose to continue their consumption of commercial meat, let them. Not everyone can exist on nuts and berries you know.

[pamelaBeurman]

Originally Posted by Woodrow LI

When properly farmed or hunted with proper conservation interests, eating meat can be beneficial to the ecosystem as it assures survival of a species. a number of today's farm animal would have become extinct centuries ago if it were not for farming.

The error came about when we became dependent upon meat as our desired food. If we once again began responsible for the slaughtering and butchering of livestock, the meat factories would become obsolete, we would reduce our meat intact to a reasonable level. Both us and the animals could benefit.

Limit the sale of meat animals to live animals only and to be slaughtered and butchered by the consumer or arraigned by the consumer for home use only or donated to the hungry.

Just my opinion, which most people will probably will disagree with.

You're probably on to something there. I'm sure that having to make your own cheeseburgers, literally from scratch, would reduce meat consumption drastically.

[whoppers]

Originally Posted by pamelaBeurman

Of course it bothers me. Why do you think we raise our own animals?

I realize that not everyone has a ranch/farm and the opportunity to raise their own food. The commercial meat industry is needed, the barbarism that it involves isn't.

With all of our technological advances we should be able to find a way to make the slaughtering process more humane, but that would cost big bucks and these companies worry too much about their bottom line.

That still doesn't give you the right to try and enforce your dietary choices on others. If they choose to continue their consumption of commercial meat, let them. Not everyone can exist on nuts and berries you know.

There was an interesting episode of Penn and Teller's BullSh-t in which they highlighted the habits of wealthy Americans who crusade against meat and "frankenstein" foods - not realizing that those without money need such foods to survive. In one telling example, a group of jobless, semi-wealthy Vegans were on the Beach's boardwalk giving out lunches that would essentially cost more money, time and space than the average (and less-than-average) person can afford.

It was a good episode, and your last paragraph reminded me of it.

My neighbor was a big advocate of various causes - until he realized how much more expensive they were, and the enormous cost it was putting on the average American. It's been estimated via studies of spending that the Eco-Craze subsided quite a bit after the economy pooped down and people realized they couldn't afford to pay 3 times as much for an organic or eco-friendly version of [insert product here]. Sad to say - many causes (Certain forms of Veganism, for example) are started by elite people who have little to no care as to how it effects the normal people they enlist to help them, in their attempts to make various things law and required. It's as you say about trying to enforce things on others.

[Blue Hue]

Most people don't even recognize they are eating animal flesh, just buy it all wrapped up, inspected ...and then cook it. In time man will probably stop eating animal flesh, In fact its getting very popular now and with a proper diet, little fish and chicken, the body does very well. The way I see it is if a race horse or elk...and many other powerful and beautiful animals don't need this kind of nutrition, why should man
( only do the best I can here with a little obsevance...I gotta busy day, and hope to improve

Notice in that disturbing video there are no women interested in the nonsense? And don't give me that buisness they are not allowed to attend....Its like saying we know the women would not all together enjoy the cruel bloodshed so.....we shall forbid them to attend ( Im not going to be fooled by the mickey mouse phsycology

Civilized man should see these videos so that he can properly know who, is behind the backwards belief systems and what exactly the ideas are rooted in. A God or Allah interested in DESTRUCTION and brutality.

Notice also in the clip, the animals basically followed the lead and offered very little dis-agreement relative to 2what was going on....that means they basically trusted the people due to being looked after. The care and feeding is then contradicted in a pointless execution, where the animal has not matured to have lived its rightful life. A most illogical and primitive example of human
existence. We must persevere though and strive to leave the past behind, esp in areas of technological development...This is key... the blunders in this area in the last hundred years will slow mans evolving process down substancially....5-600 maybe a thousand years lost....if were lucky
Barter suggestives which will not inhibit the natural and hopeful ingredient contained in progress...
"Neccesity is the Mother of invention"...( also all true and natural progress, IOW life

Blankets, farming equip, education ( supervised) a list should have been made about 100 yrs ago...its never too late

[Asheville Native]

What Do Think Of Animal Sacrifices For Religion?

It's sick, but this is religion we are talking about.

[swirling_vortex]

Originally Posted by Heartsong

I get what you're saying. Too bad bacon doesn't grow on trees.

Maybe not in a tree, but it may soon be grown in a lab.

In vitro meat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Walter Greenspan]

When the Moshiach comes, a place, most probably the Third Temple, will be built so that animal sacrifice will again take place.

For more info, see Judaism 101: Qorbanot: Sacrifices and Offerings

[MaxDrukpa]

Killing any living being (unless it is for the sake of survival) are extremely bad.
Especially when done for unproven deity.

If a religion says about the murder to proof the faith - this religion can not be called "kind".
And this god can not be kind by default.