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This verse is saying we must not judge anyone by their outward appearance, not by their titles, the figure they make in the world, and their flashy show of holiness, but by their intrinsic worth, and the gifts and graces of God’s Spirit in them.
I'm not for releasing killers back into society, but with God, no one is beyond redemption.
I mean no disrespect, but believing that no one is beyond redemption might only be true for God. Unfortunately it is not so in everyday life. Here in Holland we do not have the death penalty, only life long imprisonment with live long treatment. But serial offenders still have the right to go home in weekends (depending how severe their crime is) and several have escaped from prison this way.
I find the notion that every criminal should have the right to return back to society very noble except that it doesn't always work. Some people are simply unfit for (any) society.
Originally Posted by jeffncandace
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This verse is saying we must not judge anyone by their outward appearance, not by their titles, the figure they make in the world, and their flashy show of holiness, but by their intrinsic worth, and the gifts and graces of God’s Spirit in them.
Does this mean that there is a difference between a serial killer who is baptized and an atheist serial killer? The keywords here are serial killer.
Should those who believe in Christ be given more lenience than those who don't?
Yes, Matt Henry, but paraphrased by me....LOL but it is still my opinion on the subject
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I mean no disrespect, but believing that no one is beyond redemption might only be true for God. Unfortunately it is not so in everyday life. Here in Holland we do not have the death penalty, only life long imprisonment with live long treatment. But serial offenders still have the right to go home in weekends (depending how severe their crime is) and several have escaped from prison this way.
I find the notion that every criminal should have the right to return back to society very noble except that it doesn't always work. Some people are simply unfit for (any) society.
I am speaking from a spiritual perspective, so I DO mean for God. But for us, yes, there are some who are past redemption, IMO.
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Does this mean that there is a difference between a serial killer who is baptized and an atheist serial killer? The keywords here are serial killer.
Should those who believe in Christ be given more lenience than those who don't?
It means that ALL have their sins, no matter how great or small, washed away, but they must acknowledge Jesus as Savior. So a serial killer is still deserving to be punished physically (generally by this I mean imprisonment), but all can be spiritually healed and cleansed of their sins. Even if they accept Christ, however, they still deserve to be punished for their crimes. But in God's eyes, they are forgiven.
True, but this just doesn't help us here on earth. We still have to deal with those who commit evil here. With each act of evil they just create more and more victims. And some victims even become like those who victimized them.
True, but this just doesn't help us here on earth. We still have to deal with those who commit evil here. With each act of evil they just create more and more victims. And some victims even become like those who victimized them.
True, but it actually CAN help those here on earth by affecting internal change in anyone who follows the path of righteousness, both criminal and victim. But yes, the world as it stands does have much evil and injustice. Yet I believe the God is the ultimate righter of wrongs, and some day, evil will be destroyed.
Yet I believe the God is the ultimate righter of wrongs, and some day, evil will be destroyed.
I'm just more concerned with the here and now. And some people just can't admit that not all conditions can be fixed because they have too much professional pride or refuse to believe that the system doesn't work.
Originally Posted by jeffncandace
I'm just more concerned with the here and now. And some people just can't admit that not all conditions can be fixed because they have too much professional pride or refuse to believe that the system doesn't work.
I think we should all be concerned with the here and now.
Have you thought about going into criminal justice?
No. I fear it would only make me very depressed. I mean reading about crime is not the same as actually dealing with it.
I've had one bad experience with true evil and he only got a light sentence ( a couple of hours of forced community work).
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Yes, Matt Henry, but paraphrased by me....LOL but it is still my opinion on the subject
With each act of evil they just create more and more victims. And some victims even become like those who victimized them.
