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Old 09-03-2007, 06:23 PM
 
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Excerpts from Anthony.
How and when was the word "Christian" used?
The pagans in the book of Acts 11 at Antioch were the first to call the apostles "Christians" and then it was used in a derogatory terms, because the apostles
didn't follow the the ways of the pagan world commercially.
"Christian" is an adjective, not a noun. The substance is not in the word "Christian", instead the substance is in the heart of the man it is attempting
to describe". and which the pagan user can not see.
'Christ never called himself a Christian. Christ never addressed His followers as
Christians. The apostles never addressed themselves as Christians to each other. " If Christ never used this adjective to describe himself, so how are we to identify ourselves then"?
The disciples called themselves "brethren", "the elect", "apostles", "servants"
"believers", "followers", "the faithful", and saints". We can also identify ourselves a "bondservants" of Christ.
The term "Christian" was imposed upon the servants of Christ by "Christ's
enemies living outside the Kingdom of God, to label those living in the Kingdom
of God. "Servants of Christ should not call themselves Christians, since this would imply that "we are not from the Kingdom of God".
And this is in reference to the question in my thread about "True Believer"

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Old 09-03-2007, 06:26 PM
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I personally don't have a problem with it since in our society today the term is uses synonymously with "believer" both by believers and non-believers alike. Just kaykay's two cents.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:04 PM
 
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I personally don't have a problem with it since in our society today the term is uses synonymously with "believer" both by believers and non-believers alike. Just kaykay's two cents.
Thanx, Kaykay
Me either. thanks for your "two cents"
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Excerpts from Anthony.
How and when was the word "Christian" used?
The pagans in the book of Acts 11 at Antioch were the first to call the apostles "Christians" and then it was used in a derogatory terms, because the apostles
didn't follow the the ways of the pagan world commercially.
"Christian" is an adjective, not a noun. The substance is not in the word "Christian", instead the substance is in the heart of the man it is attempting
to describe". and which the pagan user can not see.
'Christ never called himself a Christian. Christ never addressed His followers as
Christians. The apostles never addressed themselves as Christians to each other. " If Christ never used this adjective to describe himself, so how are we to identify ourselves then"?
The disciples called themselves "brethren", "the elect", "apostles", "servants"
"believers", "followers", "the faithful", and saints". We can also identify ourselves a "bondservants" of Christ.
The term "Christian" was imposed upon the servants of Christ by "Christ's
enemies living outside the Kingdom of God, to label those living in the Kingdom
of God. "Servants of Christ should not call themselves Christians, since this would imply that "we are not from the Kingdom of God".
And this is in reference to the question in my thread about "True Believer"
christian is a adjective and a noun.You are describing the noun part of christian.
Chris·tian /ˈkrɪstʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kris-chuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings: a Christian faith.
2. of, pertaining to, believing in, or belonging to the religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ: Spain is a Christian country.
3. of or pertaining to Christians: many Christian deaths in the Crusades.
4. exhibiting a spirit proper to a follower of Jesus Christ; Christlike: She displayed true Christian charity.
5. decent; respectable: They gave him a good Christian burial.
6. human; not brutal; humane: Such behavior isn't Christian.
noun 7. a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity. 8. a person who exemplifies in his or her life the teachings of Christ: He died like a true Christian.
9. a member of any of certain Protestant churches, as the Disciples of Christ and the Plymouth Brethren.
10. the hero of Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress.
11. a male given name.

[Origin: 1250–1300; < L Chrīstiānus < Gk Chrīstiānós, equiv. to Chrīst(ós) Christ + -iānos < L -iānus -ian; r. ME, OE cristen < L, as above]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
Christian - Definitions from Dictionary.com
christian definition - Dictionary - MSN Encarta

As a noun, Christian (Gr. Χριστιανός and variant Χρηστιανός, Strong's G5546) is an appellation deriving from the name "Christ" and is derived from the Greek noun Christos which means "anointed one," itself a translation of the Hebrew word Moshiach or "Messiah". Many people associate the word "Christ" exclusively with Jesus. However, as this identification is not accepted within Judaism, in Hebrew Christians are called "Nazarenes" (Notzri), because Jesus was from the province of Nazareth.For many, "Christian" also means to be a member or adherent of one of the organized religious denominations of Christianity. As an adjective, the term may also describe anything associated with Christianity.
Christian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Well if Jesus was the messiah then he would have considered himself the Jewish messiah that fulfilled the Judaism prophesies.Then there would have not been a creation of a new religion because he answered the tanakh prophesies.

I believe the time when nero was in rome that the word christian was used more.
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:23 PM
 
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Personally, i dont care what Im called...as long as Im called for dinner
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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I don't understand why this is an issue. If we lived at the time where the word Christian was a derogatory name, then it would be a problem. The fact is that we don't live in that time and the current usage of the term Christian no longer resembles the original usage. IMO, use the word like it is currently understood.
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:26 PM
 
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Even if it was a derogatory term at any time (which I'm not saying it wasn't), aren't believers supposed to rejoice at being mocked or hated and persecuted?
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Thanx, Kaykay
Me either. thanks for your "two cents"
I agree with the both of you. We are a people of description, and if Christian describes me as accepting Jesus as God's Son who died for our sins, then I'll take it.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:30 PM
 
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I really don't think God cares what we call ourselves as long as we are following His Word.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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When I affirm the apostle's creed, I define my identity.
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