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Old 01-27-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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[quote=AREQUIPA;22730204] You would probably be amazed how tolerant I can be about peoples' beliefs provided they treat the evidence with the respect it deserves and don't try to ignore or discredit it to serve their preferences.


Are you confused ?

Please explain exactly what your personal belief is, so we can approximate where the tolerance you speak of shows a relative significance...

I understand you promote nothing-ness or some form of quasi naturalism, is this not correct..? Please be clear so the inference of tolerance re. interest of fairness, can be fully understood.

As you know everything is relative. Whats your deal ? Sitting back and complaining or providing an idea other then well, nothingness. Non producers & complainers come last. We all know this.

No body take marketing around here..? sheesh. Looks like an interesting night ahead...And you guys talk about what was it...Illiterate. Time to pay a few bills.

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Old 01-27-2012, 10:22 PM
 
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As man walked toward and away from gods, conversely its civilizations brokedown again and again. In the Intermediate period these periodic breakdowns in civilization was seen in the Mayan civilizations when all authority kept collapsing, and the populations would melt back into tribal living in the jungles. And just as the Maya cities became inhabited again or new ones formed after their periods of breakdown, so Egypt after less than a century of breakdown has unified itself at the beginning of the second millennium under a new god-king, beginning what is called the Middle Kingdom. The same breakdown occured elsewhere in the Near East from time to time , as in Assur about 1700 B.C. These breakdowns always centered on, in one way or another, the divine! City-states fought each other over whose god and therefore which steward was to rule over which fields.

There is nothing new under the Sun, as religions today still fight each other and Atheism, over whose gods will rule, or the periods of no god rule.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:36 PM
 
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The orgin of the whole idea of a King-god takes its orgin from men turning from gods and wanting to become gods themselves. The King was now the divine , a descendant of the Sun, the creator god of land and earth , of people, of the suns sweat (gold), and the moon's tears ( silver). Now before him men must bow and tremble in awe. They decked themselves with precious materials and wore crowns. This is the orgin of Kings being buried as if they were a god!
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:45 PM
 
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[quote=sanspeur;22739615Who has denied it? Many fictional novels mention real events, people and places, but it remains fiction...Read a book written by Ken Follet and you will see that he is very skilled at this very thing, so the truth is that real places, people and events do not change the fact that the bible is mainly fiction.[/quote]


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The bible is all about the Crucifixion of Christ. If you want to believe it is fiction, it would be a preference.

But know what you are rejecting.

It is very simple. A simple story showing value in sacrifice. It may be the idea is foreign to experience , but I can't really see how... for anyone.

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Old 01-27-2012, 10:53 PM
 
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The bible is all about the Crucifixion of Christ. If you want to believe it is fiction, it would be a preference. But know what you are rejecting.

It is very simple. A simple story showing value in sacrifice. It may be the idea is foreign to experience , but I can't really see how... for anyone.
Fix your tags.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:57 PM
 
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The bible is all about the Crucifixion of Christ. If you want to believe it is fiction, it would be a preference. But know what you are rejecting.

It is very simple. A simple story showing value in sacrifice. It may be the idea is foreign to experience , but I can't really see how... for anyone.
Human sacrifice is so archaic....It may be fiction or may not be, but it is nothing to be revered in my opinion.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:41 PM
 
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Fix your tags.

Make a point
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:44 PM
 
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Human sacrifice is so archaic....It may be fiction or may not be, but it is nothing to be revered in my opinion.


Which definition archaic, select your intended meaning for proper reply.

: having the characteristics of the language of the past and surviving chiefly in specialized uses <an archaic word>
2
: of, relating to, or characteristic of an earlier or more primitive time : antiquated <archaic legal traditions>

3
capitalized : of or belonging to the early or formative phases of a culture or a period of artistic development; especially : of or belonging to the period leading up to the classical period of Greek culture

4
: surviving from an earlier period; specifically : typical of a previously dominant evolutionary stage

5
capitalized : of or relating to the period from about 8000 b.c. to 1000 b.c. and the North American cultures of that time

ar·cha·i·cal·ly \-i-k(ə-)lē\
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:50 PM
 
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From the advent of god-kings theocracy was born. And that is one of the orgins of writing being put to use. Unlike in Egypt, writing in Mesopotamia was early put to civil use. By 2100 B.C. in Ur, the judgements of gods through their steward mediums began to be recorded. And this was the begining of the idea of " Law." Such written judgements could be in several places and be continuous through time, thus allowing the cohesiveness of a larger society. We know of nothing similar in Egypt until almost a millennium later. In 1792 B.C., the civil use of writing in this way breaks open an almost new kind of government in that commanding figure of Mesopotamian history, the greatest of all steward Kings, " Hammurabi, " steward of Marduk, the city god of Babylon.

This was the orgin of Letters, Tablets , Decrees and Steles. Writing was a new method of civil direction , indeed the model that begins our own memo-communicating government.

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Old 01-27-2012, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Which definition archaic, select your intended meaning for proper reply.

: having the characteristics of the language of the past and surviving chiefly in specialized uses <an archaic word>
2
: of, relating to, or characteristic of an earlier or more primitive time : antiquated <archaic legal traditions>

3
capitalized : of or belonging to the early or formative phases of a culture or a period of artistic development; especially : of or belonging to the period leading up to the classical period of Greek culture

4
: surviving from an earlier period; specifically : typical of a previously dominant evolutionary stage

5
capitalized : of or relating to the period from about 8000 b.c. to 1000 b.c. and the North American cultures of that time

ar·cha·i·cal·ly \-i-k(ə-)lē\
Can you be more condescending? My definition of the word is outdated.
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