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Old 02-07-2012, 06:32 AM
 
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Originally Posted by calipoppy View Post
I will praise Him, always. God is good. God is love.
Even when he:

Kills all the first born of Egypt. (killing children is good?)
Drowns the entire population of the planet. (he killed everyone because he love us?)
Damns good people to hell to be tortured forever for no believing he exists. (love again?)
Damns good people for worshiping the wrong god. (he's good but has a wicked sense of humor?)

You can keep you loving bipolar god.

 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Even when he:

Kills all the first born of Egypt. (killing children is good?)
Drowns the entire population of the planet. (he killed everyone because he love us?)
Damns good people to hell to be tortured forever for no believing he exists. (love again?)
Damns good people for worshiping the wrong god. (he's good but has a wicked sense of humor?)

You can keep you loving bipolar god.

God has never dammed any human.
There is no such thing as eternal hell suffering.
God has never killed anyone that he willnot give a better life to.

You need to update your rants, their old school and seriously flaswed.
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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There would be no Al Queida, no Taliban
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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There would be no Al Queida, no Taliban

No Martin Luther King, no Malcom X
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:30 AM
 
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God has never dammed any human.
There is no such thing as eternal hell suffering.
God has never killed anyone that he willnot give a better life to.

You need to update your rants, their old school and seriously flaswed.
YOU may believe that but a great many Christians believe that the bible is 100% accurate. They also believe in hell for non-believers and those that have not taken Jesus as their savior.

Are you now the spokesperson for all Christians? In what way are my statements flawed? Do the majority of Christians not believe in hell? Do they not believe that the Bible is the word of God. (therefor infallible)

How do Bible believing Christians reconcile themselves with this aspect of their god.
 
Old 02-07-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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YOU may believe that but a great many Christians believe that the bible is 100% accurate. They also believe in hell for non-believers and those that have not taken Jesus as their savior.

Are you now the spokesperson for all Christians? In what way are my statements flawed? Do the majority of Christians not believe in hell? Do they not believe that the Bible is the word of God. (therefor infallible)

How do Bible believing Christians reconcile themselves with this aspect of their god.

Gods salvation has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity; you have " Christian on the mind syndrome", you don't believe in their interpitation of God, but need to use some of their doctrine to help you preach yours." This is what I refer to as " Flipside of the coin, one side is oppisite but still attached to the other."

What Christians believe has nothing to do with what God has set up and accomplished. All humans are saved because of Christ; there is no such thing as an eternal punishing hell; your rant is wrong. The bible is the word of God but it is not inerrant.

And you can ask a Christian how they reconcile their interpitations to God , I'll let them defend themselves.

Your rants and complaints are old school and been proven to be in error; just get a few more credible rants; I mean, keep your criticism up to date at least. Knowledge is increasing, keep your rants in style.
 
Old 02-07-2012, 08:02 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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God has never dammed any human.
There is no such thing as eternal hell suffering.
God has never killed anyone that he willnot give a better life to.
I would really like to see your proof of this. I actually partially agree since there is no god.

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You need to update your rants, their old school and seriously flaswed.
You know, the exact same thing should be said to you.
 
Old 02-07-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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Gods salvation has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity; you have " Christian on the mind syndrome", you don't believe in their interpitation of God, but need to use some of their doctrine to help you preach yours." This is what I refer to as " Flipside of the coin, one side is oppisite but still attached to the other."

What Christians believe has nothing to do with what God has set up and accomplished. All humans are saved because of Christ; there is no such thing as an eternal punishing hell; your rant is wrong. The bible is the word of God but it is not inerrant.

And you can ask a Christian how they reconcile their interpitations to God , I'll let them defend themselves.

Your rants and complaints are old school and been proven to be in error; just get a few more credible rants; I mean, keep your criticism up to date at least. Knowledge is increasing, keep your rants in style.
Most Christians don't believe as you do. All religions state that they are the only true religion and all others are false. Many also believe in some type of punishment in the afterlife for non-believers and those of other faiths.

The only issue I can take with what I understand of your beliefs is this:

"Gods salvation" "All humans are saved because of Christ"
What do I need to be saved from.
What could have Jesus saved me from thousands of years before my birth.
(this tells me that no souls are born innocent and are predestined to sin)
Explain why you think Mankind is inherently sinful.
Explain the concept of sin.
 
Old 02-07-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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No Martin Luther King, no Malcom X
Sincerely doubt that.

People will fight for rights and freedom regardless, religion is not required or relevant. In fact many of the things such people were fighting against were at one time biblicaly justified.

True when people like King wanted to communicate with the public they did it in Biblical language because that was what people were prone to listening to. In a world without religion they would have simply communicated their cause in another frame of reference.

There simply is nothing about, say, the anti slavery or anti racism movements that is unachievable if you take religion out of the picture. Such movements would still have had their "kings and Xs".

Similar to your error with science you are just finding people who did something who were ALSO religious and correlating them into a causation conclusion which does not hold.

"Person X did action Y and he was religious" is not, no matter how much you clearly want it to be, the same as saying "action Y is because of religion".
 
Old 02-07-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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Originally Posted by Mickiel View Post

I would really like to see your proof of this. I actually partially agree since there is no god.



You know, the exact same thing should be said to you.

I refer you to my thread in archives, " Eternal hell suffering."
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