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Old 02-07-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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And believers in god can keep it in their pants sooooo much better now can't they

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Believing in god does not make one a moral or ethical person.
If I say I'm Christian, but then go out and worship the devil, am I really a Christian?
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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If I say I'm Christian, but then go out and worship the devil, am I really a Christian?
But christians have the power of the holy spirit

Or does the holy spirit not have any real power after all

Either way it doesn't address the issue of moral standards.

My post simply highlighted the fact that anyone can make mistakes or be a cheat and a liar, believer or non believer alike.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I may have exaggerated a tad in this post for effect, .......
Actually....I don't think you did. I think you got it spot on!
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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Live life without boundries and don't worry about a thing.
Is this level of complete ignorance and arrogance natural, or willful, for you are completely clueless.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Is this level of complete ignorance and arrogance natural, or willful, for you are completely clueless.
It's willful. He can't live with himself otherwise.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I just can't respect anyone that doesn't believe they have to answer to anybody for their life on earth, and promotes this ideology as fact.
Then you should have no problem respecting most atheists.

I have to answer to:

the police if I break traffic laws
school authorities if I'm academically dishonest
my wife and family if I mistreat them
my employer and customers if I do a lousy job
the U.S. government if I take part in terrorism
etc.

Do you really think you don't have to answer to anybody if there's no God?
I guess such a life would be pretty easy, huh?
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Then you should have no problem respecting most atheists.

I have to answer to:

the police if I break traffic laws
school authorities if I'm academically dishonest
my wife and family if I mistreat them
my employer and customers if I do a bad job
the U.S. government if I take part in terrorism
etc.

Do you really think you don't have to answer to anybody if there's no God?
In his mind, all that means is that atheists think it is reasonable to break the law/rape their kids/shoot down helicopters from the sky, and then kill themselves, because, hey, why not? No need to worry bout judgment after death. It's a free pass! Except, of course, the being dead part.

It is a sick way of looking at the world, and seeing as how no atheist believes that, it shows more about his own lack of empathy and morality than anything about atheists.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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Is this level of complete ignorance and arrogance natural, or willful, for you are completely clueless.
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It's willful. He can't live with himself otherwise.
I have no doubt it's absolutely deliberate. Problem some nasty skeleton is the closet. Those types always try to overcompensate
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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You live in a fantasy whereby you believe in the afterlife there are no consequences in contrast to life where everything has consequences; therefore, your stance is illogical and inconsistant with reality.

Also, no diety, means the absense of a creator. So apparently, the universe was assembled for no apparent reason from nothing.

Then somehow, despite being a statistical anomaly, dinosaurs were created for no reason.

You would have a more solid stance if you were to claim that the Universe was created by a creator, but that whatever created the Universe was also created by a creator.

Instead, you make a completely illogical assertion that everything came from nothing.

And you insist that this is a fact?

You are entitled to nothing.
And you live in some demented realm where you can come on a forum and berate and insult atheists.

Well guess what buddy boy...there are TOS that pertain to you as much as the rest of us, so carry on with your insulting us and your days are numbered.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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My afterlife is knowing that I'm (trying to) leave the world a little bit better then I found it. And my decedents will enjoy all the privileges that I had.
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