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Old 03-02-2012, 10:35 AM
 
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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No , it's clearly approved that Jesus was a prophet of God , and there is only one Master ;God

Matthew 23:8 " But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is you master, even Jesus, and all ye are brethern."
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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No
If there is God it's a more rational and intelligent being than any of the revealed religions and their "personal" gods with mythological-based sons of god, resurrections, miracles etc and with human traits like jealousy, anger, etc.

Jesus, if he existed was just a cult leader who put himself at odds with the political and religious leaders of his homeland.

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Old 03-03-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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Yes Jesus is the Son the Living God , and millions of Christians around the world will give you their personal accounting witness for their dealing with the true Son of God By Father God the Lord of Host and creator .... And all these Christians did not get this idea from the Bible and Jesus is God , but by the evidence through Jesus Holy Spirit who comes and lives on these believers bodies who repent of sin and ask Jesus spirit come to them ....Christians witness Jesus by His living Spirit , Muslim believe Jesus was just a prophet by the Koran which is error on this fact....
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Jesus is NOT God, he is the son of God.
Do any of you remember why we have Christmas?
It is the day we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, the son of God.
If Jesus were God, there would be no son of God, and therefore no reason for Christmas.
Bob.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Yes Jesus is the Son the Living God , and millions of Christians around the world will give you their personal accounting witness for their dealing with the true Son of God By Father God the Lord of Host and creator .... And all these Christians did not get this idea from the Bible and Jesus is God , but by the evidence through Jesus Holy Spirit who comes and lives on these believers bodies who repent of sin and ask Jesus spirit come to them ....Christians witness Jesus by His living Spirit , Muslim believe Jesus was just a prophet by the Koran which is error on this fact....
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Many people from around the would will give you "their personal accounting witness " of dealing with any number of divine persons other than Jesus also. Are they right too?

It was the writers of John's Gospel (95-106 AD) who came up with the "I am" saying implying that Jesus was God. The three synoptic gospels and Acts of the Apostles only claim that Jesus was the Messiah (or at least a prophet).

Acts 2:22-24 "You that are Israelites,* listen to what I have to say: Jesus of Nazareth,* a man attested to you by God with deeds of power, wonders, and signs that God did through him among you, as you yourselves know— 23this man, handed over to you according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of those outside the law. 24But God raised him up, having freed him from death,* because it was impossible for him to be held in its power." (NRSV)

So Jesus didn't work miracles by his own power, and did not rise from the dead by his own power. After all, he was only the Messiah.

There is no Old Testament claim that the Messiah was to be divine!

Note: Only in John's gospel is it implied that Jesus rose (active) rather than was raised (passive).
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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That's what I don't get about Christians. Jesus constantly mentions his father and how he's there to do his father's will, but suddenly he gets killed/resurrected and is now The Father?!

It seems to me the idea of Jesus as god came about long after the fact, .i.e. it was a made up concept.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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Yes Jesus is the Son the Living God , and millions of Christians around the world will give you their personal accounting witness for their dealing with the true Son of God By Father God the Lord of Host and creator .... And all these Christians did not get this idea from the Bible and Jesus is God , but by the evidence through Jesus Holy Spirit who comes and lives on these believers bodies who repent of sin and ask Jesus spirit come to them ....Christians witness Jesus by His living Spirit , Muslim believe Jesus was just a prophet by the Koran which is error on this fact....
O.k but what shall I do with Jesus commandments that denote to Monotheism Or Jesus directions not to be called a God . I would provide some verse from Bible but you hint that Christians get ideas out of the Bible.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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Jesus is NOT God, he is the son of God.
Do any of you remember why we have Christmas?
It is the day we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, the son of God.
If Jesus were God, there would be no son of God, and therefore no reason for Christmas.
Bob.
Why shoul God needs a son ? or even more why should God need the hall humanity ? just to refute the notion of Redemption .
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Yes. In Christian theology, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are considered three persons in one.

All three are 100% God.
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