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Originally Posted by Heartsong
So how did two of all the animal species fit inside? This is why I read this story as a type of parable and also a prophetic tale. We know the number 8 carries the meaning of New Beginning. The story of Noah and the Ark is a highly symbolic story. The Ark is a symbol of Christ and of God which is the Holy Spirit.
Do you think it's possible Christ referenced Noah's flood as a parable? Or does he seem to take it literally?
What about this omnimax deity that was supposed to be inspiring and guiding the hands of the Bible writers? Didn't he know about the rest of the world and put the Hebrews right...sort of 'Oy Moses! This flood...it was only local ya know.'
Of course God knew the whole world was inundated with the world-wide flood. Back then most likely there was just one continent called Pangea.
It is really quite simple. Sink the continent on it's plate and rise the sea levels.
The internal evidence does not support a local flood. For instance, the Mesopotamian valley which Noah was in was only about 200 miles wide by about 400 miles long. He could have just gone with all the animals for about 20 days journey over the valley wall to the east to escape the flood. Instead he took 100 years to build a ship the size of a WWII aircraft carrier.
Here's the problem with Noah's Flood. The bible text claims the flood was worldwide. However, in the times that this supposedly took place, their known world consisted of an area that centered around modern Israel/Egypt area. They didn't know of Europe, China, Japan, South and North America, Australia, and so on. So how could they claim a worldwide event when they didn't even know of what lands and peoples the rest of the world was comprised of!? In reality, their world consisted of what we know today as just a region. Is a region wide flood possible? Sure. But a world wide flood? How could they claim that when they didn't even know what the world was?
It would be like myself being born on a island in a small native group. They've lived there with no contact with the outside world, no idea that there's billions of people out there on far away continents. Then one day a tall wave hits the island and washes it away. I then write into our religious texts that the wave was 'world wide' because, to us, it was. Our whole known world consisted of that island.
The writers of the bible took the world-wide flood as a literal event because they knew back then how big the world was and they knew, when they got off the ship, that no one was living but them. I'm sure they didn't have to send out surveyors to see if every one on Pangea bit the dust because they knew the waters went above the highest mountain on Pangea and so no one could have survived. We aren't talking about a little island here but a whole continent.
How excatally did the Native Americans surive the global flood? It's amazing that grown adults believe in this cute fairy tale as literal fact in the 21st century.
How did they? By Noah's Ark, that's how. After the flood, which happened around 4990 B.C. the world population was kick started again by Noah, his wife and three sons and three daughter's in law. The American indians came from one of his children.
A flood that god created to murder every single human on the plant, except for the handful on the big boat, yet supporters use the proof of many cultures documenting the flood as part of their history as proof.
Exactly how did all these people that drowned in the flood, write it all down?
They used Apple computers.
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Were the blogging, "oh heck, it's up to my neck"
Not quite.
Ever think they wrote it down AFTER the flood, AFTER Noah and family re-kick-started the earth's population?
By the way, God didn't murder anyone.
If the state puts someone to death it is not called murder. Just as the state is our ruler so God is the supreme ruler.
Not only did God act like a neighborhood bully by knocking down the tower of Babel and confusing their speech, he wiped their memory card too!
Ok, that being the case, how do you know that the biblical accounts are the correct ones? Did they just go with the first story they heard when they sat down to write the bible?
Inquiring minds want to know.
There are common themes accross all religions indicating that at one time in the distant past people held a common belief...You can see this today with religions having different denominations that had there origins in one belief system...Roman Catholics split into RC and Lutheran...Pentecostals split into Holiness, Oneness, etc.... Ana-Baptists into Amish and Mennonites...Islam into shiites, Sunnites, etc....Presbyterians into American Reformed and Church Of Christ...And the list goes on...And to add to these divisions the splinter groups that formed from them...Omeone somewhere wakes up and says he had a dream or a vision and 'poof' another denomination or splinter group is born claiming that they have THE Truth...There is Archeological evidence that indicates that the story may have come about after the great melt and the Mediterranean filled back up and overflowed into the black sea, I think it was, and flooded the then lake shore dwellings either drowning the people or driving them to higher ground, because Archeologists have found towns and villages and streets under the Black Sea indicating that the shore line was much smaller at one time...And the fact that, on the surface, the black sea is salty, but if you go down to a certain depth you can find a layer of fresh water...And to point out that even the Irish and the Welsh, even before the christian era, traced their lineages back to Gomer, son of Japheth, son of Noah...Also, in Josephus' work, I believe, he cites an even earlier writing speaking of survivors of the global flood that managed to survive on top of a mountain in present day Armenia, can't remember the name of the mountain without looking it up, that claim a large boat came to rest on the mountain top with eight people aboard...As far as cultures having similar global flood stories, the American indians, including Central and South Americas, came from in and around Siberia, the DNA evidence proves this...And the Bible indicates that Shem's descendants migrated toward the far east, Ham's toward the Middle East and Africa...Japheth's the Middle East and North toward and into Europe...And the stories were transmitted oraly until someone wrote them down...to the best of their recollection...Even Pangea is mentioned in the Scriptures...Today science states that all our continents were one a long time ago...Have you heard over the Hyperbolic chamber experiment in conjunction with the theory of the way the atmosphere was before the flood?...College is one thing, I went, it focuses on the course material one needs for a specific area of pursuit and merely gives one enough information to have some knowledge of general studies without going into detail, however, it does suplly you with the tools to 'dig deeper' if you wish...Every myth or story has a kernal of Truth in it...They came from somewhere and where inspired by something and seeing as they were probably transmitted oraly...You know how that one goes...The old 'Pass it along' game?...By the time the story gets to the last person and depending on how many people it was pass along to it gets added to, taken away from, changed, embellished, etc., to the point that it doesn't even resemble or barely resembles the original story...
So how did two of all the animal species fit inside? This is why I read this story as a type of parable and also a prophetic tale. We know the number 8 carries the meaning of New Beginning. The story of Noah and the Ark is a highly symbolic story. The Ark is a symbol of Christ and of God which is the Holy Spirit.
That's easy to answer. There were only approximately 16,000 animals on a ship the size of a WWII aircraft carrier with three levels.
Of course one can also draw spiritual stories from the ark.
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