Did the concept of SIN exist in the natural world before there were humans?

[granpa]

there is lots of violence in the animal world but it isnt technically 'sin'.

sin is an invention of the human mind.
animals cant understand it.

sin is a caricature of violence (the death drive)

human eventually mature to the point that they can see that 'sin' is just an imaginary construct of the mind. Violence however is very real.

[LargeKingCat]

Sin is a human invented concept.

[Christianresources1]

Sin can only occur when beings know about opposition. There is opposition in all things. Right vs wrong. Hot vs cold. Light vs dark.

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[hiker45]

Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer

At one time, it was thought that morality was particular to humans. However, recent scientific studies suggest that the beginnings of moral codes may occur in non-human animals.

For example, chimpanzees exhibit a social order with behaviors which are considered acceptable for the group. When a member of the group strays from this behavior, that member is punished by those higher up on the social order.

If "sin" is defined as the violation of moral codes and the punishment therefor, then can it be said that sin existed before there were humans?

I think your definition of "sim" is correct and your analysis is correct. There was "sin" before there were humans.

[brightdoglover]

"Sin" versus "unacceptable/maladaptive behavior" is what brings money into the religious coffers.