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Old 04-02-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Obviously, all such guestimations are based on conjecture only of the ship being hit by this size wave or that size and how often. Since all the animals and humans made it through just fine, waves or no waves are a moot point.
Here is a chart of the Beaufort wind scale that gives wind speed and corresponding sea conditions...Incidentally the average time between the crest of an ocean wave and the wave following it is less than 20 seconds, so that in a 45 foot sea (Not uncommon) that old ark would drop and rise 45 feet more than three times a minute...I hope old Noah remembered the barf bags...

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Old 04-02-2012, 10:34 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Here is a chart of the Beaufort wind scale that gives wind speed and corresponding sea conditions...Incidentally the average time between the crest of an ocean wave and the wave following it is less than 20 seconds, so that in a 45 foot sea (Not uncommon) that old ark would drop and rise 45 feet more than three times a minute...I hope old Noah remembered the barf bags...

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Can we expect that Eusebius will argue that waves and wind could have behaved differently in Noah's day...not that God was doing it, mind - that would have involved magic.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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I think that these animals might have been a problem on the ark.

I guess it's not totally impossible that God could have, maybe, magically shrunk the dinosaurs somehow and then used some kind of Mr. Sandman dust to put them into hibernation or something.




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Old 04-08-2012, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Wink I ASSUME you'll agree with me....

Your one comment below, in response to to my efforts is, again, telling in the extreme.
By the way, I only responded to your directions and instructions, to take your Equation on, itself obviously completely assumptive! Your intent, pretty much mathematically unfounded (via the "Big Equations Are Always Right!" assumption!) to Prove the Ark based on a single simple self-righting force moment, was, by it's own admission, chock-full of assumptions on each and every parameter in the equation.

Thus you abandon it with not even a "fair thee well!" Rather Selective, don't you think? (You continue to demonstrate your gross technical illiteracy, btw... but why stop you now?)

Or: Why did you not respond properly, respectfully and honestly to my efforts then? You should have said: "Oh. I had no idea. Thank you rifleman; you've shown that such an equaltiion is ALWAYS subject to thorough review and a degree of assumption! My BAD! It won't happen again!"

Now to hear that from you, when you WERE in the wrong, would be EPIC. I don't hold out for it though... You'll just drone on and on and on..

You yourself have made so very many wildly assumptive statements: "this could have been...", "we don't know what the exact so and so was...", "gopher wood was obviously an oversized California Redwood..." ;"this wave size or that..." and the whopper of them all: "since all the humans and animals made it through" (since we've absolutely proven this whole thing is an absurd impossibility and an ecolgical disaster for those both on and off such an imagined Ark).

ande I quote you, which I assume is your official position only when you've been proven wrong again. On each and every point so far, btw... even "The Really Big Equation!" farce you so terrifyingly ran away from...

And here he is, back by popular demand!

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Obviously, all such guestimations are based on conjecture only of the ship being hit by this size wave or that size and how often. Since all the animals and humans made it through just fine, waves or no waves are a moot point.
Yup; let's assume that there were no high seas during an impossible torrential downpour, massive magic hidden-water upwhellings (and subsequent reversal and evaporation by God's massive winds that magically produced no waves in your hugely assumptive mind; plus endless wind storm events as part of a glorious non-stop monumental 40 day downpour!

Now that makes more (assumptive...) sense!

You are a techno- and logical-fool, Eusebius; pure and simple, and by your own words.
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