Jesus was FAR different than most people think! (America, Revelations, prophecy)

[Lucidkitty]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

And you have the DNA analysis to prove this instead of relying on the book of Matthew that was written almost 1,000 years after Jesus's death?



I suggest you do the same.

Gospel of Matthew - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The gospel was written within 50 years of his death not 1000

[BigCityDreamer]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

According to Matthew 1:20, concerning Jesus physical conception; " For that which has been conceived in her ( Mary's womb), is of the Holy Spirit." This means that Jesus physical body was not the result of male spamodazoa being fertilized by Marys womb, it was the result of what God placed inside of her and used her womb to carry him for 9 months. And that is significant and implys many , many things that people don't readily consider.

The virgin birth symbolizes purity, Mickiel. I don't interpret it literally.

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by Lucidkitty

The gospel was written within 50 years of his death not 1000

I apologize for one too many zeros, but Matthew is thought by some sources to have been written at the end of the 1st century. So let's split the difference and call it 75. Either way, the anonymous author of the Book Matthew as a contemporary of Jesus and certainly was present at his gestation or birth.

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by geofra

What would one say of Adam? He was born of God and Mother Earth. The virgin birth had nothing on that.

I apologize for the smart assiness

Well Adam was created, not born; it was " A type of birth", but he was the first man with consciousness; yet still you make a good point. Adam was not created from human spamodazoa , nor formed in a female fetus; which is why the bible calls him the firstborn man " Of the earth." Which is part of the proof I use in speculating that primordal man created much before him, were not conscious humans.

Jesus is conversely called the first born man from " Above." Or from another dimension. That dimension is what all of us are destined to " Evolve into."

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

I apologize for one too many zeros, but Matthew is thought by some sources to have been written at the end of the 1st century. So let's split the difference and call it 75. Either way, the anonymous author of the Book Matthew as a contemporary of Jesus and certainly was present at his gestation or birth.

Matthew was the author of Matthews; one simple reason it is called the book of Matthews. The book was written in A.D. 50.

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer

The virgin birth symbolizes purity, Mickiel. I don't interpret it literally.

I agree part of it symbolizes purity, but parts of the bible are literal. Those parts that are literal can be interpreted literally. I believe the virgin birth was literal.

[Rafius]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

This means that Jesus physical body was not the result of male spamodazoa being fertilized by Marys womb, it was the result of what God placed inside of her and used her womb to carry him for 9 months.

Well if that's true at least that shows that your man-god is not of the Davidic blood line and can't be the Jewish Messiah.....so that's cleared that up.

What's "spamadozoa" by the way and where can I get some?

[peter-1]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

I agree part of it symbolizes purity, but parts of the bible are literal. Those parts that are literal can be interpreted literally. I believe the virgin birth was literal.

From a Christian perspective there is no doubt on this and compliments to the thread.The Angel Gabriel expressly declared this for our consolation, when he saluted BVM saying, fear not thou has found grace. This express's the vigin birth in the Son of God. This is the Christian understanding. Also,where the Son is a King the Mother is rightly and truly considered Queen and Sovereign. We would then consider the glory of the Son not only as being common to his Mother, but as one with Her. The Blessedness in the Christian understanding as the direct Son of God is important.

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by peter-1

From a Christian perspective there is no doubt on this and compliments to the thread.The Angel Gabriel expressly declared this for our consolation, when he saluted BVM saying, fear not thou has found grace. This express's the vigin birth in the Son of God. This is the Christian understanding. Also,where the Son is a King the Mother is rightly and truly considered Queen and Sovereign. We would then consider the glory of the Son not only as being common to his Mother, but as one with Her. The Blessedness in the Christian understanding as the direct Son of God is important.

I personally don't agree with the Christian perspective on certain things , and certainly don't trust it. And I certainly disagree that Mary was on the same level as Christ. I do not view her as a Queen or Sovereign. I view her as an incubator and a good woman.

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by Rafius

Well if that's true at least that shows that your man-god is not of the Davidic blood line and can't be the Jewish Messiah.....so that's cleared that up.

What's "spamadozoa" by the way and where can I get some?

Mary and Joseph were both from the tribe of Judah and descendants of David. Joseph through Solomon and Mary through Solomons brother Nathan. Although Josephs blood was not in Jesus, he inherits the bloodline through Mary. Mary had no brothers and was entitled to inherit her familys land as long as she married someone who was also descended from David, Joseph fit that bill and there is no loophole for synics to harp on. Jesus was a biological descendant of David through Mary.