The deaths of the Apostles

[Lucidkitty]

Originally Posted by MasterChief

We have a collection of 27 books that show they did. For that matter, we have a church that rapidly expanded from Jerusalem in a very short period of time. If you're foolish enough to ignore the documentation we have, I'm not sure there's really hope to convince you.

Rapidly is pretty much up to interpretation since we are unaware of the number of churches, and more importantly their sizes. Since it took the church 300 years to even acquire a legal status i think it's far to say it's movement was moderately slow.

[Green Onions]

Originally Posted by Mind over Chatter

There is a difference. Islamic suicide bombers kill themselves for something that they think is true. The apostles would have known that Jesus was a fake because they spent so much time with him. Therefore they would have had to die for a known lie. Very few people will die for a lie if they know it is a lie.

You mean, just like 39 Nike-wearing castrati weren't willing to kill themselves for Marshall Applewhite, because they spent so much time with him they would have known he was a fake?

Oh, wait ... they did kill themselves for him.
Marshall Applewhite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Need I mention Jonestown?
The Order of the Solar Temple?