Is Unbelief Wilful?

[Asheville Native]

Originally Posted by RevelationWriter

Then one has no beliefs.
And no one has no will.

Come out of the circles now you are dizzy.

You were dizzy before you started, now completely loopy, a common affliction for those without the ability to think freely.

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by RevelationWriter

When I play ball with my dog?
At times I throw the ball to a place he didn't see.

Although I show him where it is?
He goes every place else looking instead.

Is my dog's 'unbelief' about the ball 'willful'?

Yes, his will is to believe it's somewhere else.

You must have a very stupid dog...Mine goes where I point.

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by littlemagician

most of us dont use our brains.. the brains use us.. we are soo conditioned that we cannot see past the lies taught to us .they are rooted soo deeply into our belief system that we dear not even question it..

when we begin to question we will see for ourselves what is real and what is an illusion

I hope you are speaking for yourself, or perhaps those that are programmed with dogma...I, and the people I know are not afflicted with the handicap you speak of.

[littlemagician]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

I hope you are speaking for yourself, or perhaps those that are programmed with dogma...I, and the people I know are not afflicted with the handicap you speak of.

i speak for whoever it applies to. i myself have been very attached to belief making me act in ways that are very limiting. but when we can see that the beliefs are jsut thoughts that we are attached to we see that the judgements are based on our conditioning and if we are free from attachments to these beleifs then we are freee to live and let live

[irish_bob]

Originally Posted by littlemagician

i speak for whoever it applies to. i myself have been very attached to belief making me act in ways that are very limiting. but when we can see that the beliefs are jsut thoughts that we are attached to we see that the judgements are based on our conditioning and if we are free from attachments to these beleifs then we are freee to live and let live

while i agree that most people dont think deeply about most things , as someone who was once not a deep thinker but who became one by way of a seminal life event , i much perfered the time when i was shallow and accepting of things unconditionally

i firmly and absolutley believe that ignorance is bliss , i know that selfish and lazy but for me its true

[PoppySead]

Originally Posted by irish_bob

while i agree that most people dont think deeply about most things , as someone who was once not a deep thinker but who became one by way of a seminal life event , i much perfered the time when i was shallow and accepting of things unconditionally

i firmly and absolutley believe that ignorance is bliss , i know that selfish and lazy but for me its true

I hear ya! Life sure seems easier that way. lol
I often wish I could just ignore the things that I cannot.

[RevelationWriter]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

You must have a very stupid dog...Mine goes where I point.

I've no dog. Too many allergies.
But I know it happens. he-he-ee