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Old 08-08-2008, 06:58 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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It works perfectly for me.
Most people would call me financially poor, yet I'm happy for not having the desire to become rich.
I wouldn't mind being rich, however, since I'm a Libertarian-Socialist (not to be confused with a Marxist Socialist or Communist), I believe in pursuing wealth through your own labor and not through others. I guess I'm sort of a Mutualist as I believe everybody should have access to a means of production (individually or collectively), with trade representing equivalent amounts of labor. I have never and will never support state-controlled socialism or communism. They don't work, aren't efficient, and they cause many problems that could be avoided.
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Old 08-08-2008, 06:59 AM
 
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"if we really discovered Christ's call to love our neighbours as ourselves then capitalism as we have it now would be impossible and communism would not be necessary. We are not creating a system but we are creating a relationship with people in poverty" Shane Claiborne
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:08 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I believe in pursuing wealth through your own labor and not through others.
Does this make you rich?
I only work for the amount of money that I need, so if I can get by with say for example $20 a day I will only work for $20 a day.

I am 'rich' because I only want what I need.
I don't care if my neighbour owns a Ferrari.
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:21 AM
 
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Does this make you rich?
I only work for the amount of money that I need, so if I can get by with say for example $20 a day I will only work for $20 a day.

I am 'rich' because I only want what I need.
I don't care if my neighbour owns a Ferrari.
I believe people should be free to make as much as they want. I do have a problem with the way some people go about doing it, but that's a different discussion. If you only want to make $20 a day, that's fine. If somebody else wants to get $1,000 a day, that's fine too. Either way, it should be through your own labor and hard work.
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:48 AM
 
Location: (WNY)
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My father worked hard to create a fabulous life for his family. His work was rewarded with an amazing amount of money. He did not go about throwing his money away on material things or being selfish... While he was making this money *after years of having very little and knowing what that is like* he was able to send my siblings, my mother, and myself to college... when we were done with school and beginning our lives as adults we were given VERY MODEST cars...we took trips and had great vacations... but this was a family event, keeping us as a family unit when we were all in seperate parts of our lives, not all living at home anymore... We lived in a modest house, built in a track from the 60's... nothing to brag about but it was a real HOME, not a showroom, and we were happy. I lived such a life that I had no clue how much my father ACTUALLY made... Perhpaps it was due to the fact when i was younger they did not have this surplus of funds... My parents tell stories of how when they first got married, purchased their firt home, they would put us kids to bed and sit on the front porch to enjoy the egg rolls they could afford on payday... So, we went from a "minor" extreme to another and in the process I never realized how life had changed... I think that is the difference... if you have wealth and you live HIGH ON THE HOG... THAT is sinful... but if you live modestly, support your family, give to charities, donate you time as well as your money, don't act as if you are better than those who don't have it....then you are not sinning... if you have an air about you that smells like cash... that is another story...
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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I think that being an evil ¢apita£i$t pig is awesome. Screw the rules I'm Scrooge Mcduck.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Stanwood, Washington
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Was Jesus a Capitalist?
Christ is (not was) a lover of freedom, and learned a trade from his father to engage in the marketplace. He obviously was not a socialist, or he would have gone to school and not worked until a job was assigned to him. Christ's followers obviously had jobs for the most part, or there would have been no means for them to support His ministry and that of the first church pastors, from which came our Pastoral Epistles.

A capitalist? He would not have valued profit higher than righteousness, which are often contradictory. So I suppose a more pointed question would be, "was Jesus a successful businessman?" I would say no, thankfully.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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Well Jesus did become a nomad after his coming of age. Nothing screams "anti-capitalism" more loudly than someone actively choosing to live the life of a bum
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:59 AM
 
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I think that being an evil ¢apita£i$t pig is awesome. Screw the rules I'm Scrooge Mcduck.
Come to the States. You'll fit right in.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:13 PM
 
Location: South FL
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My understanding is that Jesus was not political (although some want to portray him as some kind of revolutionary politician). Remember, He said that his Kingdom is not of this world, thus he did not belong to neither Socialism or Capitalism.
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