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Since everyone above the age of six probably knows the metaphorical use of the term "heart" . . . can we dispense with this puerile reference to its biological function? It is neither smart, nor clever, nor insightful, nor particularly helpful to any discussion . . . just annoying.
I'm no longer Christian but even if I was, the church would have no influence on what the hubster and I decide to do in our bedroom.
It's not their place to dictate to us and it's none of their damn business anyway.
I once read that the Bible Belt is the most sexually repressed and at the same time sexually dysfunctional part of the country. There is also an over-abundance of sex related crimes, and a higher than average per capita membership in Bondage and swinging clubs. It was suggested that religious edicts and repression result in some highly creative imaginations when a person does break out of religious chains.
I live in the bible belt and while I have no idea what goes on behind the bedroom doors..I think it is very sad that I never see couples here holding hands, hug each other, give each other a quick kiss. Nothing....I think my hubby and I are the only who modestly show our affection fro each other.
In my opinion, it is not up to any religion to tell me what I can and cannot do in the privacy of my bedroom. It is no one else's business. But then again, religions have no authority in my life anyway.
I agree.....no one has the right to tell consenting adults what to do in their bedrooms.
Here is an interesting site. This is what is on the first page:
Snippet:
"Why Is There So Much Interest In Sex, And Lots Of "Cheating" In Our Culture?
Whether you are Christian or not, our culture has been influenced by a sexually repressive Christian tradition that denies the God-given natural desire to connect emotionally and sexually with more than one person, which is the essence of polyamory. The repression of both sexual experience and knowledge results in a society titillated by the tease of sex, but with little intimacy skills or sexual knowledge.
Here is an interesting site. This is what is on the first page:
Snippet:
"Why Is There So Much Interest In Sex, And Lots Of "Cheating" In Our Culture?
Whether you are Christian or not, our culture has been influenced by a sexually repressive Christian tradition that denies the God-given natural desire to connect emotionally and sexually with more than one person, which is the essence of polyamory. The repression of both sexual experience and knowledge results in a society titillated by the tease of sex, but with little intimacy skills or sexual knowledge.
Many threads here are about religion and sex, on both Religion and on the sub-sub-forums. Does it bother you that the Church, some denominations more than others, dictate your private romantic life, including procreation?
There was a one-liner about the Vatican and the bedroom (birth control) at one time. It went like this:
(insert Italian accent): He no play da game, he no maka da rules.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
Your private romantic life in marriage is between both Spouses and God. God intended married sex to be not only for procreation but also to stenghten the bond of the marriage commitment thru pleasure giving and recieving. It is part of becoming one flesh in an environment that is safe, genuine, and with great commitment to one another. That said, our Churches have EVERY right to encourage us and demand that we dont engage in sexual immorality per the specific requirements found in the Word of God...and....these should be readily embraced by those who want to please God by the way they live and think .
What is VERY wrong, is any Chruch such as the RCC that demands a person cannot marry such as Priests. This violates scripture in 1 Tim. 4: 2-3 which calls such demands wrong and coming from false teachers.
While the bedroom is between two Spouses, I believe it is God honoring to stay away from certain sex acts that are unnatural , degrading, and disease spreading regardless of whether one or both spouses want to try them. Two people agreeing on something that is not good or correct, never makes it acceptable to do , for, that is the mantra of our out of control sex saturated culture which people of God should not follow.
Your private romantic life in marriage is between both Spouses and God. God intended married sex to be not only for procreation but also to stenghten the bond of the marriage commitment thru pleasure giving and recieving. It is part of becoming one flesh in an environment that is safe, genuine, and with great commitment to one another. That said, our Churches have EVERY right to encourage us and demand that we dont engage in sexual immorality per the specific requirements found in the Word of God...and....these should be readily embraced by those who want to please God by the way they live and think .
What is VERY wrong, is any Chruch such as the RCC that demands a person cannot marry such as Priests. This violates scripture in 1 Tim. 4: 2-3 which calls such demands wrong and coming from false teachers.
While the bedroom is between two Spouses, I believe it is God honoring to stay away from certain sex acts that are unnatural , degrading, and disease spreading regardless of whether one or both spouses want to try them. Two people agreeing on something that is not good or correct, never makes it acceptable to do , for, that is the mantra of our out of control sex saturated culture which people of God should not follow.
Thanks again for your very useful input. It is an eloquent argument that we should give serious thought to our sexual behaviour, both in the interests of ourselves and others - but not, random factors forbid - in the interests of the prodnoses of any and every one of the churches. As you so persuasively put it: "VERY wrong, is any Chruch". Couldn't have put it better myself.
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