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Old 05-29-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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WOW! someone has some serious issues.
Yeah with all this obsession I wonder if her man left her for another man

 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: OKC
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No, that doesn't mean that.
It simply means that children need a mother and father, whether biological or adopted.
But a gay couple should have the same right to marry as an infertile couple, right?

It is true - check medical facts and the US CDC statistics.
There are also studies that show the even when same-sex couples have some type of commitment ceremony, they still are more likely to cheat, than heterosexual couples.
And why would we want laws encouraging anal sex, when we know that even in 2 healthy males, it involves health risks of anal fissures, bacterial infection, anal cancer & colon rupture?
You're good with lesbians, right? That actually have lower health risks. Perhaps we should encourage young women to become lesbians, that could save their life!

More seriously, you have explained what that has to do with marriage. Marriage makes the problem better, not worse.


Please explain to me which states prevent a same-sex couple from contractually legalizing common law marriage.
[COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"]Oklahoma, for one.[/color]

So, now because you realize the negative implications of trying to please gay-agenda supporters, you want to throw out the entire legality of marriage?
Don't you understand what marriage is for, primarily?
CHILDREN! - The future of society!
When a couple has childrne out of wedlock, the family is less likely to stay together. Marriage & parenting are tough! Every parent & spouse, at one time or another, wants to give up! Government knows this & they also know that children do better under the care of their parents than under state custody. If all men and women were intelligent angels, we wouldn't need laws & government - but that is not reality. Children are the primarily reason for legal marriage.
Again, even assuming your argument is true, you don't explain why we should allow infertile heterosexuals marry, but not gays.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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WOW! someone has some serious issues.
Yeah, if you call speaking up for TRUTH, "serious issues" than maybe.

Truth makes some people uncomfortable, so they attack it or anyone who sheds light on it.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: OKC
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There is only one explanation why you would allow infertile couples to marry, but not a lesbian couple: bigotry.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Again, even assuming your argument is true, you don't explain why we should allow infertile heterosexuals marry, but not gays.
I already explained this, BoxcarOverkill.
Children need a MOTHER and Father.
Some children are conceived by mothers who are not married & not in position to raise the child, so these mothers give their babies the gift of adoption. Most mothers want the best for their child - which is to have the influence of both a mother and father. Mothers have unique influence, as do fathers - that the opposite do not have. Children need both. History & biology show this, besides studies mentioned in my previous post.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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LOL My data for the fact that children need a mother and father is my own existence, as well as billions of others... for starters.

Also...
"Children Need Both A Mother And A Father" Dr. A. Dean Byrd
Children Need Both A Mother And A Father

"Why Children need both Mother-Love and Father-Love" Glenn T. Stanton
http://www.jashow.org/Articles/_PDFArch ... I0804G.pdf

"Mothers' and Fathers' Socializing Behaviors in Three Contexts: Links with Children's Peer Competence"
Pettit, Gregory S.; Brown, Elizabeth Glyn; Mize, Jacquelyn; Lindsey, Eric
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/se ... o=EJ563106

"Why Children Need a Mother and a Father" Bill Muehlenberg
http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2010/...-and-a-father/
Data by definition is scientific, and three of those four are not. The other basically concludes that interaction with parents leads to more socially competent kids than non-interaction with parents; there was no comparison to any non-standard parenting couples.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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There is only one explanation why you would allow infertile couples to marry, but not a lesbian couple: bigotry.
Would you also call me a "bigot" for denying a pedophile rights to marry a child?

Some pushing the gay agenda are pushing for something similar.

The APA has not only redefined homosexuality, but has now redefined pedophilia, pretending it to be less harmful than it is.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Would you also call me a "bigot" for denying a pedophile rights to marry a child?

Some pushing the gay agenda are pushing for something similar.

The APA has not only redefined homosexuality, but has now redefined pedophilia, pretneding it to be less harmful than it is.
Children don't have the capacity to consent to marriage.


You seem to keep dodge my question though.

Infertile straight couple could marry, but an infertile gay couple could not marry.

Here's another question: A single female has a child. She is gay. Is it better for her to marry another female, or remain single? (There is no chance of a father.)
 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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It's very simple:

Marriage is best to be legally defined as between a man and a woman because:

1. The same union that created each of us is the same union that the future society (children) is based upon.
Just as children need both a mother and father to EXIST, they also need the influence of both to thrive best in being raised.
Same-sex marriage DENIES children the RIGHT to be raised by a mother AND father.

2. Laws are supposed to be for the good of society, yet homosexual practices prove to be dangerous.
According the the US CDC, those with same-sex preferences change partners more often than heterosexuals & thus spread diseases like STDs & AIDs more. Even between 2 healthy males, anal sex involves health risks of anal fissures, bacterial infection, anal cancer & colon rupture.

3. Same sex couples already have rights under laws like common law marraige & cohabitation agreements & rights can be extended if a contract is created upon living together.
The only reason to try to legally redefine marriage is to try to force society to respect sexual deviations.
This has implications for other sexual deviations, as APA redefined pedophilia & child-sexual abuse is being pushed by gay-marriage supporters, trying to make it appear less harmful than it really is. Also, in places where same-sex marriage has been made legal, others' rights have been denied, like children being taught homosexuality in schools.
Wow, your parents have really drilled this into your little head huh.

1. Lots of people are raised by single parents and the children do just fine in life. Plus there are enough children in the world without a family. Also, wouldn't you agree we are over populated. I mean come on, pumping up cows and chickens with harmones just to meet demand. Yeh, way to many people in my opinion.

2. If people want to be promiscuous that's their problem. It's up to the individual to protect themselves. If the gov't wants to do good for the society make it mandatory to have all hospitals, clinics, and hotels to have free condomns. Add in a free STD/HIV test for everyone every 6 months, and bang. There you go, a healthy safe society.

3. Got damn, are you bigots really struggling insecure gays. You guys sure are obsessed with this certain topic. Although, the banks and coporations continue to steal from you, you just gotta get the gays out because we're the ones who really made your life hell.

Grow up and live your life. If people put this much energy into raising their kids right, maybe, just maybe America can make a come-back.
 
Old 05-29-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Yeah, if you call speaking up for TRUTH, "serious issues" than maybe.

Truth makes some people uncomfortable, so they attack it or anyone who sheds light on it.


No that’s YOUR truth and YOUR opinion you know what they say about opinions. I can pull up an equal amount of opinions which are the oppersite of yours. Forcing your ideas/belifes onto everyone else gets you attacked. Even more so even it's based out of
ignorance.
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