Atheists: What's your evidence God doesn't exist? (Lord, heaven, religions)
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Originally Posted by chielgirl That was my point.
But through their believers gods become reality. Knowing this, can you still say that gods do not exist?
No. I can believe that aliens are real but it doesn't make them real. This kind of goes back to the "no absolute truths" argument.
No. I can believe that aliens are real but it doesn't make them real. This kind of goes back to the "no absolute truths" argument.
No, I don't think the notion of a nation is an absolute truth.
As far as I know there is no absolute proof of power either, whether it is political, economical, or physical power.
Someone only has power over you when you give him that power. I mean can you bribe someone who doesn't care about money or influence? Can you threaten a man with death when he is not afraid to die?
The thing is that an idea only exists when it has believers to defend it. If only one man has the notion of viewing his house (or the ground he lives on) as being his private property, he will soon be called crazy for viewing his house as private property since no one else regards it that way. But if everyone but the 1 guy believes that a person's house can only be private property, it becomes a private property and he'll be seen as a trespasser every time he violates this custom.
As far as I know believing in aliens is not the same as believing that you can have personal possessions.
I don't have a hatred for all things Christian...That is a patently false claim as compassion in medical care has been documented for many, many centuries prior to the existence of Christianity and may well have existed in the caveman days...Christianity may or may not have interfered with medicine; it did have a long history of opposing science.
Perhaps you don't even realize it, but everthing you post about Christianity is negative...I call that hatred towards. (Thanks for the negative rep just because you "disagree" BTW. )
I'm sorry if History bothers you, but it is what it is and you can't ignore what you dislike and believe what you do. You make your claims that Christianity was against, science, was against medicine was against this and that. It's all your right to say, but it is also my right to point out otherwise. Just like it can be said that someone getting all their information from pro-Christian sources will be biased, it goes the other way too.
You'll just have to live with open dialog in this free society.
I have no evidence that god doesn't exist. BUT I also have no evidence that he does.
I am MORE then willing to believe in something with some evidence. I don't simply swallow something based on faith.
I think its more then likely some kind of higher power is out there and has played a part (although I am not sure what) in the world and universe. BUT again, I have no evidence to support this and my assumption that there probably is, is based more on emotion then anything else.
I don't know many atheists who will tell you that KNOW for a fact there is no god.
Yes. I understand. That's why I said the term "agnostic" is more accurate than "atheist" for people who are willing to admit that we, as humans of limited sensations and minds, are unable to really know either way if an all-knowing "god" exists. Atheism is most commonly thought of (especially by religious people) saying definitively that "there is no God," while agnosticism acknowledges our inability to really know. There is a big difference, I think.
Of course there is no proof. There never can be. "God" is an attempt to define the unknowable.
Accepting and acknowledging our own limitations is a sign of wisdom, IMO.
The main problem is us humans alot of times do not liek the way he answers or we are so busy asking questions we do not event take the time to consider the answers. God not evil.
He does?
Then you say we don't like how he answers?
Isn't that being malicious?
If a cancer patient prays for help and God doesn't help him, then what is that all about? God has the power to stop the pain, but won't? Why not? Not worthy enough of a request? Not sincere enough?
How is that helping then?
We don't consider the answers? What answers??
You hear answers?
You see randomness and I see a system. We've been able to beautifully describe some of the world around us with mathematical equations and scientific laws. While randomness plays a huge role in subatomic particles, the universe as a whole is a giant system which can be explained in time.
I may very well be wrong, but where I see a system such as ours, I can't help but believe it was created. I don't pick up a Shakespeare play and think it was more likely that it was written by a large number of monkeys hammering away at a keyboard.
Now is our creator the God of Abraham? No idea... couldn't tell you. I think there's much good that can be learned from many of the world's religions. Living my life by Jesus' golden rule has made me a happier person... and I'm sure some eastern religion's meditation teachings could bring more peace to my life. While maybe you can correctly state that not all religions can be right, most of them could be confusing the same creator as their own... and skewing their texts in their favor.
You haven't had enough life problems yet. Everything is hunky dory and it's easy to believe in a nice big God.
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That was my point. 
Knowing this, can you still say that gods do not exist?
No, I don't think the notion of a nation is an absolute truth.