Originally Posted by Thomas R.
I've followed her blog for awhile. She is an interesting and fairly reasonable person. Granted she's young and is figuring some things out, so she's not exactly Mortimer Adler or even G. E. M. Anscombe, but I don't care for the attacking.
Sometimes people switch their minds on things. Deal with it. As for another poster if we're going to do lists here's other people who went from atheism to Catholicism.
(Edited for brevity..)
Uncharacteristically low-level of thinking from you, Thomas
! C'mon man! I expect a lot more from you! My point was simply what others have also now commented: So what? A testimonial from a loneconvertee
who also, by her own words, notes her rather deep inhibitions, social problems and her need & enjoyment of a more organized social structure & community. So what!
Did I say "so what"?
Originally Posted by SeekerSA
A prominent atheist would be a Dawkins or the like. Some unknown blogger does not constitute a trend now does it? Even so, atheists do not generally look to other atheists as moral compasses or take their cues from them.
Stupid thread as we have christians converting to islam, muslims converting to christianity, secular jews or a myriad of folk exchanging one faith system for another. Should we start a post to record and discuss each one of those instances?
Quite right, SA
! Again, so what.? What is the OP's point? That people can have life-altering social & philosophical positions, esp. @ her philosophically young age? Why exactly did the media pick up on this one, or was it on a Xtian network "special presentation"? Earth-shaking, mind-altering? Deeply omving? None of the above, IMHO.
But still... anyone else moved to tears of joy?
Originally Posted by littlewitness
..."conversion" to atheism? You mean theft right? As in your mind was stolen from the truth of Christ in you...thinking yourself to be wise, you became a "fool for crud." A kind of court jester employed by the NAS lavishing praise upon the king of cess himself Richard Dawkins...taxing the minds of little children with the National Academy of Sciences little book of horrors: Science, Evolution, and Creationism.
Any person persuaded by the delusion of atheism does not "come to their senses!" They've lost all sense of reality!
Oh what a biased "load'a
" thou bringest to every discussion. "theft" by whom? Oh yeah, I forgot: Satan. Yup. Science (aka: logical, step-wise thinking...) is crud huh? Then throw away that laptop, and commence to sending your posts in by snail mail! (Honestly, the blatant hypocrisy rampant in religion is pathetic, and very Selectively Convenient!)
Your hatred of atheism is tangible, and what's that smell around here? Oh yeah; you must have left a bad post r'oun' heah
... FYI: I was
a Christian, simply seeking to get some timely and polite answers to further my faith and my beliefs, but those in positions of authority were unable
, or categorically unwilling
, to provide any simple answers to my very simple and friendly questions.
It therefore became painfully obvious to me as a practicing Christian, but one wanting to move beyond the "fall down and yowl in unison & on command!
" prototype, that there were
no good answers, unless one was also willing to suspend all of their common sense. Some, of course, simply buy into whatever they are told, and then quietly go and sit down and call it "good". Remind you of anyone, lw
I can of course easily prove this to you, lw
but again, not a one of you is EVER
interested in an actual RRoO debate. (Roberts' Rules of Order; look it up. It's not atheist, it's just how real debates are conducted! Too bad that frightens the heck out of you types.... Not to mention that you've probably never heard of those Rules, now have you? The UN and the US Senate & House and British Parliament as examples, have; that's how they all operate. But... be honest now, for a change... You simply won't allow
for such a controlled exchange, now will you? [waiting for the predicted and vicious ad hominem
response instead of a "Well, I guess we could give it a try...")
? Christians claim:
All known organisms were set afloat on a leaky pitch-sealed unpowered barge for 18 mo, with no food and water, only to be disembarked at the frozen 13,000 foot level. Imagine: a lone Amazonian Parrot pair left to fend for themselves in such a wondrously "special" environment!!!?
Or, an Instant Genesis event all backwards and illogical, but also out of nothing
? Absolutely no evidence for Evolutionary processes? Co-existing T-Rex pets amongst the village children & goats? Brontosauri pulling the agri-plows? Geological evidence of an ancient (very VERY ancient..) earth all haphazardously and hand-wavingly dismissed and discarded as all being faked by every geologist?
Numbers of felony-faker pseudo-scientist bloviating Christians who have granted themselves "honorary" PhDs in "whatever" and then posting utter nonsenses on the 'net, which you loyal and blindered guys and girls all lap up like dehydrated rat-dogs, then fatuihfully and unquestioningly re-parotting it ad nauseum
& ad infinitum
for all of us to read?
You who are all unable to answer even the simplest
technical question, or explaining your positions and decisions absent another ambiguous biblical post (as proof, no less...)
and yet then presenting yourselves as some sort of technical gurus, all the while denigrating those of us who have, yup, the actual credentials to comment on technical issues?
delusional? Boy, you REALLY need help, my laddie! Such knee-jerk reactionist and fear-inspired accusations are entirely
predictable, sadly for any of your arguments, ever.
But still, if I'm so SO wrong, and if you wish to deny the "unwilling to answer a simple question"
accusation, will you be willing to engage in a test debate?
lemme know, and be sure that you tell all of us right here and now
that you're willing, so it's on record!
Otherwise, keep your cake hole... well you know.
Originally Posted by meep
This definitely doesn't help your cause. You just sound mad.
Nope, just wondering why the OP? What's his/her intent
, versus any other funny story about any other conversion? From, for instance, clogs to hi-tops, or omnivorous to Vegan? so what? (I think I already asked that one. but no harm...)
It's too bad that simple & direct truths, and giving my opinion when the OP specifically asked for it
, is seen as my
BAD, huh? Apparently Christians only want positive responses. if so, then they should trot such threads on over to the Christian sub-forum if they only want "Glory Be, PTL!"
Seems my brand of logical but direct (oh, and yep, often sarcastic..) responses and questions do
bother the timid and insecure.
Originally Posted by agnostic soldier
What others believe doesn't affect what I believe.
The problem with this girl's conversion and the conversion of other former atheists is that none of their reasons for converting are based on reason or evidence. They're always based on ignorance or emotion. On the otherhand, the reasons that many atheists give for deconverting from their former religion are based on facts and rational thinking.
Best watch out, ag
: the defensive and awe-struck apologist fringe is apparently on the hunt for any honest opinions and well-thought-out personal convictions here, unless you want to fall down and howl "PTL!" alongside them!