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View Poll Results: Do you believe that there is no god?
Yes 43 74.14%
No 11 18.97%
I don't know what I believe. 4 6.90%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-07-2012, 12:45 AM
 
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I claim there is no god as nobody has actually encountered one. For me to believe I would need to be able to test that god exists. I would also need reason to worship said god. A god that demands all we have and to worship them, while providing no reason to do so, is not worthy of it.
So all things that have not been encountered do not exist? Have you encountered my brother yet?
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:45 AM
 
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So does that make it true?
No belief necessitates truth/facts. There is no veridical necessity without reasons. As such it then becomes an epsitemological endevor. Now which epeistemological methodology do you want to use for your beliefs? Do these beliefs warrant a greater probability than their opposite even if such a position warrants possibility. Your question never even approached such issues. I gave you an appropriate answer to the question you asked. If you want to get into the knowledege aspects of your beliefs, or mine, and how they correspond, or not, to reality then that would be a different question.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:47 AM
 
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I believe that there are no gods.

My proof. When someone tells me a story about this or that god, or these or those gods, I don't believe it.

No evidence that has yet been provided to me has changed my mind.
I believe in fairies and no evidence has ever been presented that has changed my mind.
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:45 AM
 
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Civility, usually met in kind with the civility I hear too frequently from theists, "your are going to hell" and all the other Pascal's Wager nonsense.
Honesty, I think you will find that atheists are inherently more honest than the average theist. Year of doing business in the bible belt I learned quickly that the word of a man that wears his religion on sleeve is frequently worthless.
And without rational, and discussion is pretty pointless, a scripted etiquette lesson at best.

Seems that it is typically the theist that is telling others what to think. I attempt to challenge others "to" think.
Hurt people hurt people.

On another note, I find it absolutly amazing that your methods/methods you employ in attempting to convert others to your way of thinking are almost identical to the techniques employed by Louis Farrakahn. No offense to Mr. Farrakahn but continous lazy thinking, blaming all for a few, gets old on the ears pretty quick.

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Old 07-07-2012, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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So all things that have not been encountered do not exist? Have you encountered my brother yet?
No, but you and others have. There is probably several documents/records and photos proving his existence. The same cannot be said about god.
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Evidence, Schmividence . . .everything is based on belief . . .even your non-belief is a belief. It's all constructed through language and environmental influences.
Wrong! I do not believe I am sitting infront of a computer typing this. I know for a fact that I am as I have proof that I am. I do not believe I am drinking a beer right now because it tastes so darn good, I know for a fact I am because there is a beer infront of me that pleases my tastebuds. I don't believe I nearly kill someone who broke into my home and tried to hurt me, I know I did as he and I have the scars to prove it. I do not believe I am breathing, I know I am as my lungs are inhaling oxygen delivering it where it is needed in my body and exhaling and removing carbon dioxide from it. I don't believe that your comment is illogical, I know it is as I have just proven it so.

Most things in life are based on knowledge and evidence.
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:26 AM
 
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Asheville,

I don't even need rational, I would settle for honesty and civility. Trying to tell someone else what the "really" believe like you know better is just rude! If you are not willing to listen to the other party in a conversation, you should just keep quiet... the grownups are trying to have a conversation. If you are not willing to have an honest discussion, you are the equivalent of a telemarketer, a telephone pollster, a door to door encyclopedia salesman, or that annoying wrong number with a fax machine on the other end.

I mean, I don't think some of flipflops positions are necessarily logical, but he is nice about it and is willing to talk about it. I learn something about him and his beliefs and often about myself and my own beliefs.

Sorry I get so het up about it, but I have just been noticing it more and more. I am very interesting in discussing just about anything, and there are so many who will just not engage. Why even be here? I know you have a point, I did it too when I was a believer. I went to camp to learn how to do it better. Witnessing that behavior from the other side just seems so... icky.

-NoCapo
Nice try....big decency speech leaving a dump in a pail for all to enjoy.
It is said....I do not believe in a God....

I don't think there is any real argument from the theist camp. If an individual does not believe in a God, then we would know if there is a God, the God would not believe in the individual. There is no common ground to enable an association. If there is a God which I believe, the understood affirmed atheist on Gods behalf would be no more than an understood mechanical mechanism within operations....thats it. Reason is reason. So the atheist is right, relative to a God and his or herself....there is no God. Everyone is correct. Reason is reliable.

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Old 07-07-2012, 06:04 AM
 
Location: The Land of Oz.
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Nice try....big decency speech leaving a dump in a pail for all to enjoy.
It is said....I do not believe in a God....

I don't think there is any real argument from the theist camp. If an individual does not believe in a God, then we would know if there is a God, the God would not believe in the individual. There is no common ground to enable an association. If there is a God which I believe, the understood affirmed atheist on Gods behalf would be no more than an understood mechanical mechanism within operations....thats it. Reason is reason. So the atheist is right, relative to a God and his or herself....there is no God. Everyone is correct. Reason is reliable.
Hahahahahaha, another one who knows what god thinks, chica boom!
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Old 07-07-2012, 06:31 AM
 
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Hahahahahaha, another one who knows what god thinks, chica boom!
no...just what is reasonable to assume. BTW great laugh...hang on to it, I think it goes all the way back to neandy times
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Old 07-07-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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Oh joy, another thread where someone tries to elicit reactions out of atheists by pretending the burden of proof lies on them.

Again, for those trying to rile people up by pretending they do not already know this: The idea there is a god is not just slightly, but ENTIRELY unsubstantiated at this time. More than that we do not need to know, show or claim. But that is the painful fact you so readily run away from cowering by pretending people have to prove there is "no god".
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