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Old 07-10-2012, 02:30 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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That is a very good point.....(reppp) ....as appeal to authority can be inappropriate if they pontificate about matters which they know nothing about. Also we can get false appeal in which someone is help up as an authority in areas where they would never claim any expertise or authority and of course authorities can be represented as holding views which they do not actually hold. Notably

Einstein believed in God (he believed in an intelligently ordered universe but did not believe in a persona god or in any religion)

Hitler was an atheist (he certainly believed in divine power which had a plan for him and everyone else, but he had no time for religion as such)

Flew converted. (he certainly became convinced by ID argument, but he never adopted a belief in a personal god, let alone any religion)
Why did you say Hitler was an atheist? Hitler didn't say that. Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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Many smart, intellectual and learned men were Christian believers. If you reject christianity, you are effectually rejecting these men's views which were very well thought out throughout history.
Even smart, intellectual and learned men and women, depending on the era in which they lived, were confronted by what seemed like mysterious and incomprehensible natural phenomenon which belief in god helped to explain. Even now when many of these phenomenon have been examined and given a scientific basis they still do not explain everything, nor do they provide the psychic comfort that religion can provide even the most intellectual and learned among us. For many there is just a need to believe in something god like. That doesn't make them less smart, or any less intelligent and certainly doesn't provide a rational reason to reject their secular views and intellectual achievements.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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99% of Presidents are/were Christians, and it's extremely hard to become a president in the U.S., so there you go (One example out of 1 billion).
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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99% of Presidents are/were Christians, and it's extremely hard to become a president in the U.S., so there you go (One example out of 1 billion).
I think a more correct way to say it is that all the Presidents (so far) have SAID they were Christians. It's a long way to change Washington and Jefferson from Deists into Christians. There are others, but nobody ever ran for the Presidency claiming other that religious views.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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99% of Presidents are/were Christians, and it's extremely hard to become a president in the U.S., so there you go (One example out of 1 billion).
I doubt that a self proclaimed atheist could even get nominated, much less be elected president, and the reason for this is because of Christian prejudice and bigotry towards atheists...Atheist are the least trusted group of people in the US, with homosexuals running second....This situation is temporary though because non belief is also the fastest growing demographic...
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:03 PM
 
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99% of Presidents are/were Christians, and it's extremely hard to become a president in the U.S., so there you go (One example out of 1 billion).

Doesn't necessarily make them the smartest, George W. Bush is a prime example of that....
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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Doesn't necessarily make them the smartest, George W. Bush is a prime example of that....
And the president that spawned this guy.

It really seems the more a person campaigns on their religious piety, the dumber they are.
Examples, Palin, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:10 PM
 
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Hitler was an atheist (he certainly believed in divine power which had a plan for him and everyone else, but he had no time for religion as such)
Uhh, someone believing in a divine power with a plan is NOT an atheist. Hitler was a 100% theist and a Christian to be exact...
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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99% of Presidents are/were Christians, and it's extremely hard to become a president in the U.S., so there you go (One example out of 1 billion).
Yeah, as if anyone who WASN"T Christian would even have a chance at being elected. They said they were Christian, but were they really? Who knows. Many think that Obama is a closet Atheist.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:59 AM
 
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Most have to follow the money.
Since atheists are supposed to be a very small minority of a predominantly Christian USA, where would you suppose the money is?
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