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Unread 07-19-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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It would be kinda silly to build ultra-complex and gigantic stone geomagnetic hydraulic pump along the shore of one of the largest rivers in the world that never dries out.
It isn't so silly. That's like saying it is silly for Detroit to pump billions of gallons of water to communities in Michigan from the great Lakes when, after all, those lakes never dry out.


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if this goofy theory is true, the Egyptians were were damn savants... to build a Wonder of the World to pump water but never have it occur to them to just go down to the river with a bucket.
I'm sure it occured to them. But they weren't as dumb as people today. Why go to the river with a bucket when one can pump water up to the Giza Plateau?

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"Magic Pyramid theorists" never seem to be able to answer this question though... Yea, the Giza Pyramids are pretty incredible, but if aliens and/or advanced technology built them, why is it that we can see dozens of older pyramids along the West bank of the Nile, all being more and more complex/technically advanced as they get newer, with Giza being the LAST pyramids built.
No one I quoted believe the Pyramids employed magic.

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It's like going to an Air Show, seeing a B2 stealth bomber and calling it an amazing work of aliens that would be impossible for humans to build while totally ignoring the Wright Flyer, the Curtis JN4 Jenny, the B9, B17 Flying Fortress, B29 Superfortress, B52 Stratofortress, and B1 Lancer parked next to it down the display line!
I'm not saying the Pyramids were built by aliens. They were built by humans.

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It is so painfully obvious to me that Giza is the epitome of hundreds of years of trial and error in Pyramid design and is NOT out of step with typical human behavior OR the technical abilities of the Ancient Egyptians.
The pyramids disprove the notion that ancient peoples were just a bunch of dumb goat herding knuckle dragging imbeciles.
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Unread 07-19-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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whoppers, the pyramids were not tombs, ever. They buried their leaders in the valley of the kings.
There are 3 epochs in Ancient Egyptian history: Old, Middle and New Kingdoms. Only the Old Kingdom built pyramids.

The Valley of the Kings was a New Kingdom burial ground (starting around the 18th dynasty, when Egyptian power resolidified after the defeat of the Hyksos), and was in use for about 500 years, out of the approx 5000 year long history of Ancient Egyptian Civilization. The pyramids were already ancient when king tut's family was dropped in the ground and Ozymandias (Ramses II) & the rest of the hawk-noses made their bid for godhood.

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The pyramids were machines.
No, they are well constructed piles of rocks.

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It isn't so silly. That's like saying it is silly for Detroit to pump billions of gallons of water to communities in Michigan from the great Lakes when, after all, those lakes never dry out.
Does Detroit use a 450 ft tall pile of rocks to focus geomagnetic energy to fill the pipes? No, they use the 21st century equivelent of going to the well with a bucket... a pump and some pipes.

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I'm sure it occured to them. But they weren't as dumb as people today. Why go to the river with a bucket when one can pump water up to the Giza Plateau?
Why go through all the trouble of building a pyramid when they could just makes pipes and a pump?

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No one I quoted believe the Pyramids employed magic.
Not directly, but what you are claiming equates to magic. It simply doesn't make sense.

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I'm not saying the Pyramids were built by aliens. They were built by humans.

The pyramids disprove the notion that ancient peoples were just a bunch of dumb goat herding knuckle dragging imbeciles.
Nobody is claiming that. The pyramids are true Wonders of the Word and were not built by imbeciles. But they were not water pumps either. They were monuments to powerful men who thought they were gods.
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Unread 07-19-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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Time for some facts:



There are 3 epochs in Ancient Egyptian history: Old, Middle and New Kingdoms. Only the Old Kingdom built pyramids.

The Valley of the Kings was a New Kingdom burial ground (starting around the 18th dynasty, when Egyptian power resolidified after the defeat of the Hyksos), and was in use for about 500 years, out of the approx 5000 year long history of Ancient Egyptian Civilization. The pyramids were already ancient when king tut's family was dropped in the ground and Ozymandias (Ramses II) & the rest of the hawk-noses made their bid for godhood.
Nonetheless, they never buried anyone in the pyramids. That is just a patent falsehood.


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No, they are well constructed piles of rocks.
By people who were geniuses who made them as machines.



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Does Detroit use a 450 ft tall pile of rocks to focus geomagnetic energy to fill the pipes? No, they use the 21st century equivelent of going to the well with a bucket... a pump and some pipes.
No because Detroit does not have the technological know-how those Egyptians did.



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Why go through all the trouble of building a pyramid when they could just makes pipes and a pump?
I could tell you but you probably wouldn't understand.


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Not directly, but what you are claiming equates to magic. It simply doesn't make sense.
But it's not magic and it does make sense.



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Nobody is claiming that. The pyramids are true Wonders of the Word and were not built by imbeciles. But they were not water pumps either. They were monuments to powerful men who thought they were gods.
Last two sentences are False.
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Unread 07-19-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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whoppers, the pyramids were not tombs, ever. They buried their leaders in the valley of the kings.

The pyramids were machines.
Of course they were. Erich von Daniken lives!

(Just out of curiosity, don't you find it the least bit peculiar that none of the workings of these machines have ever been discovered?)
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Unread 07-19-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Of course they were. Erich von Daniken lives!
Actually, it has nothing to do with Erich von Daniken.

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(Just out of curiosity, don't you find it the least bit peculiar that none of the workings of these machines have ever been discovered?)
No.
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Unread 07-19-2012, 10:21 AM
 
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The pyramids are nothing but glorified tombs...

Egyptian pyramids were originally built to serve as tombs for kings and queens. After a ruler died, his or her body was carefully treated and wrapped to preserve it as a mummy. According to ancient Egyptian belief, the pyramid, where the mummy was placed, provided a place for the king to pass into the afterlife. Egyptian pyramids facts and information | Ancient Egypt history.
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Unread 07-19-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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Of course they were. Erich von Daniken lives!

(Just out of curiosity, don't you find it the least bit peculiar that none of the workings of these machines have ever been discovered?)
They are such amazing machines that they don't require workings, apparently. All you need are LOTS of cut stones piled in a pyramidal shape!

To think we've wasted all that effort doing putting gizmos in casings that do Newtonian things to make them work.

It's all right though.... just imagine what people will say about us in 5000 years after looking at Mt Rushmore.

"The faces of the gods... built by armies of the slaves with wooden chisels over a 100 years and perfectly aligned to shoot lazer beams out of their eyes using energy built up from deep in the earth into a now missing power plant, which was in turn used to create electricty to power golden sailing ships up to the moon."

Honestly, it's more fun than reality!
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Unread 07-19-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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The Egyptian Pyramids were machines not tombs:
Bupahs World: Pyramids were not tombs

Furthermore, since the great Pyramid of Giza had a retaining wall around it to hold water and the Nile flowed right by it, why would they go to all that trouble of getting water into a pyramid if it were only used for a tomb?

Maybe the water was used for extra terrestrial space craft to refuel them with hydrogen so they could take the body of the Pharaoh to another planet! Yes! That will work! That's why there's not any pharaoh's in the pyramids! The body snatchers from the alien planet Nabiru took them! Why not! LOL! It makes as much sense to say the Great Pyramid at Giza was used for a tomb.

But you know what? It is O.K. if you want to believe the pyramids were built for tombs. Like I said before, even if we disagree, your thoughts are important.

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Unread 07-19-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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The Egyptian Pyramids were machines not tombs:
Bupahs World: Pyramids were not tombs

Furthermore, since the great Pyramid of Giza had a retaining wall around it to hold water and the Nile flowed right by it, why would they go to all that trouble of getting water into a pyramid if it were only used for a tomb?

Maybe the water was used for extra terrestrial space craft to refuel them with hydrogen so they could take the body of the Pharaoh to another planet! Yes! That will work! That's why there's not any pharaoh's in the pyramids! The body snatchers from the alien planet Nabiru took them! Why not! LOL! It makes as much sense to say the Great Pyramid at Giza was used for a tomb.

But you know what? It is O.K. if you want to believe the pyramids were built for tombs. Like I said before, even if we disagree, your thoughts are important.
Maybe they realized the Nile is the only reason they existed in the first place, so they gave it a prominent place in their mythology and symbolism. Maybe they though death was mystical and developed an entire mythology/tradition around it too! Hey... maybe that's why boats were buried near the pyramids too! Maybe they are tombs! I bet if we looked inside we'd even find sarcophagi too!

But then again, naw... certainly they did it to bum-steer future archaeologists so they wouldn't pick up on proprietary Ancient Egyptian tech.
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Unread 07-19-2012, 03:46 PM
 
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The Egyptian Pyramids were machines not tombs:
Bupahs World: Pyramids were not tombs

Furthermore, since the great Pyramid of Giza had a retaining wall around it to hold water and the Nile flowed right by it, why would they go to all that trouble of getting water into a pyramid if it were only used for a tomb?

Maybe the water was used for extra terrestrial space craft to refuel them with hydrogen so they could take the body of the Pharaoh to another planet! Yes! That will work! That's why there's not any pharaoh's in the pyramids! The body snatchers from the alien planet Nabiru took them! Why not! LOL! It makes as much sense to say the Great Pyramid at Giza was used for a tomb.

But you know what? It is O.K. if you want to believe the pyramids were built for tombs. Like I said before, even if we disagree, your thoughts are important.
You may as well use a quote and a link from "Above Top Secret" as the one you cite...I think I need my tinfoil hat again...

Were the Pyramids Used as Tombs?

The truth of the matter is that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence in support of Egyptologists on this subject. I will make an effort here to outline the reasons for believing that the pyramids were indeed used and designed for funerary purposes (the pyramids were NOT designed as tombs and tombs only, the complex as a whole played a pivotal role in the forwarding of the king's soul to the afterlife and providing sustenance while it was there) . Were the Pyramids Used as Tombs? | www.egyptian-mysteries.com
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