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Were bathtubs used to make wine?...same arguementitive methods...the bathtub was not designed initially for making wine...but some used it for just that task...So do we now say bathtubs are for making wine ?
So were the pyramids used as tombs?...perhaps perhaps perhaps...But were the pyramids designed as tombs initially?...now that takes a bit of faith in who designed those things and other things around the world...Gates?...perhaps perhap perhaps...all tied into the sphere equation..to connect different apart of the whole.(Nodes)..to distribute the equation of life, and the waters around the earth....in the beginning....perhaps?... perhaps not?...but the Bible does tell of Hydro minipulation with God and his Garden...flood and drain, mysting, and then eventually rainfall..and the dome being made around the planet...with Plants..and water..and such.....again plausable explainations are referenced in Biblical accountings....are they not valid enough to say...perhaps..?
There's no point in arguing over whether the pyramids had burial chambers - or tombs, for the information is freely available from reputable sources and Egyptologists (especially see the Harvard-sponsored excavation of the Giza Pyramid and it's study of the burial chamber). Several posters have provided information, though it's pretty common knowledge already. It's not a belief - it's a well-established fact. Google it, pick up a book, go to the library, etc.
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Originally Posted by Eusebius
But you know what? It is O.K. if you want to believe the pyramids were built for tombs. Like I said before, even if we disagree, your thoughts are important.
Of course it's okay - because it's factual to state that one of the main purposes of the pyramids was to facilitate a powerful leader's access to the afterlife via burial. I don't need your permission to be correct.
You - on the other hand - are holding to a belief when you insist that "the pyramids were nor tombs, they were machines". In addition to being a belief, it's a belief that flies in the face of all evidence - thus removing it even from the realm of "belief". Belief is usually defined as "faith in something that cannot be seen". Since there is evidence to the contrary of your belief, it ceases to be a belief and becomes wrong thinking. Plain and simple.
If you wish to persist in wrong thinking, by all means - but don't expect it to be accorded the same degree of respect that correct thinking based on evidence is. And don't think that you can dismiss the facts as just another "belief" that someone is entitled to. From what you have offered in this thread, it ranks up there with the JW's back-and-forth theories of the Giza Pyramid's purpose and every other fringe theory concerning the Pyramids.
There's no point in arguing over whether the pyramids had burial chambers - or tombs, for the information is freely available from reputable sources and Egyptologists…
Those reputable sources and Egyptologists they also provide freely available information about the funerary texts being magical incantations!!
Better believe a priest than an Egyptologist!
How come, dear Whoppers, and there are three major pyramids for just one king?
Listen to Mendelssohn:
The discovery of strongly overlapping building periods came at first as a surprise. However, once we consider the technological effort involved, it soon becomes apparent that consecutive construction is an economic and organizational impossibility. Owing to their immense size, the building of pyramids on the scale undertaken in the Fourth Dynasty had to become an activity in its own right which demanded its own economic rules. It essentially dominated the pattern of life and, once started, tended to continue and escalate like a self-sustaining chemical reaction. It was the pyramid and not the pharaoh that ruled Egypt and new pyramids had to be erected, irrespective of whether a pharaoh was ready for burial or not. Once it is realized that the continuous construction of pyramids had become compulsive, the strange fact that Snofru should have built no fewer than three large pyramids acquires new meaning.
The Pyramids represent a serious matter and I suggest to you guys (especially to you Eusebius) to read serious books on the subject.
Those reputable sources and Egyptologists they also provide freely available information about the funerary texts being magical incantations!!
Better believe a priest than an Egyptologist!
How come, dear Whoppers, and there are three major pyramids for just one king?
Listen to Mendelssohn:
The discovery of strongly overlapping building periods came at first as a surprise. However, once we consider the technological effort involved, it soon becomes apparent that consecutive construction is an economic and organizational impossibility. Owing to their immense size, the building of pyramids on the scale undertaken in the Fourth Dynasty had to become an activity in its own right which demanded its own economic rules. It essentially dominated the pattern of life and, once started, tended to continue and escalate like a self-sustaining chemical reaction. It was the pyramid and not the pharaoh that ruled Egypt and new pyramids had to be erected, irrespective of whether a pharaoh was ready for burial or not. Once it is realized that the continuous construction of pyramids had become compulsive, the strange fact that Snofru should have built no fewer than three large pyramids acquires new meaning.
The Pyramids represent a serious mattear and I suggest to you guys (especially to you Eusebius) to read serious books on the subject.
Well, it's a good thing you reccomend that everyone read "serious" books on the subject, while quoting from a non-serious work by a non-Egyptologist whose strange theories concerning the pyramids have been roundly ignored and dismissed by actual Egyptologists. But then again - you aren't really known on this forum for consulting actual professional works by actual Egyptologists except to declare that they are all idiots, are you? Your many posts that revealed your utter lack of comprehension of good sound scholarship on Egypt pretty much excludes you from being able to suggest to other forum members that they consult "serious" works. You might try that yourself. I will agree that Eusebius needs to consult serious works (or even a simple book on Egypt written for middle school), but disagree with your definition of "serious" works. Mendelssohn should have stuck to the field in which he was trained, rather than producing a paltry work that only convinced those readers who lacked the skills to discern trash from substance.
Perhaps then you'll be able to answer your own question you posed above.
Moving on from that - I fail to see how this thread about ancient pyramids being machines even belongs in the religious forum.
Not sure about laying claim to set period time line of construction...We do not know that aspect, we can only speculate theory at this point...carbon dating is not accurate enough by any means....and if a eternal God has eternal life..and can move through time as it seems this God can...then what is made in a time that stands still is or was created before time was time..may have passed through some of that time now past, after its concepts..in a slower rate of decay...or faster rate than normal rates...so to say this is of this period or that is highly speculative.
But In a accounting of God...it clearly seems something came down from Heaven..and started Life here...and then returned?...and something that says there was no life here when that happened may be entirely true...
So how does one take a dead planet...and turn it into a living zoo?...and why?....still pieces of the puzzel not quite rationally sound yet...maybe we are food for the Gods?..."because you are neither cold nor Hot, i will spit you out of my mouth"....seems a bit telling?...
Yep..Hydrophoics..and transpiration of waters..into the air...into the planet...into the heavens...it all seems tied to a master Builder.....but also a living machine in plants.(and fractal equations instilled in them)..when you put the plant in its place and leave it alone..and stand sinless...well that was the intentioned intent and original instruction of the master builder...the Pyramid (main node) is no longer required once the plant is in its place and established according to that master Builders instruction...Doing what the machine once did do in part, in the beginning? or maintaining it in the machines replacement....perhaps?...and the council of elected elitious cannot say when that period or time line was...YET....
Now they have found bigger complexes and supposedly older structures underwater....hmmm....maybe salt water can change atomic decay?...enough to cause error in detection by our methods??....eternal life may have something to do with not decaying...thus time could stand still with that idea...making claims on such using decay methods of detection might not be valid enough to make claims of any sort....perhaps?...salt...a key biblically mentioned substance...when salt looses its saltiness...what is it good for..?.....salt can hold light in a slowed down state...(Sodom and Ghemorrah?)..may even stop it and hold it for long periods of time?...so water, salt..plant...living things..and the light and the gravity of the dark matter.....sent or transfered over space and time.. from X..Place of origin = EDEN perhaps...a bit of a larger construct than Earth...the gate or star gates...Nodes?...electrical interferance/ bent light or out of phaze light or gravity=...misinformation...leading people astray from doing what needs to be done sinlessly on all sides of zero....surely?...keep it alive by following the instructions of the master builder who knows his creation better than we do?...or do we murder the planet for $$$...pretending we know better than he?...hmmm...perhaps something is in essence truthful about that master builder...being a God...or atlease very intelligent entity...and as that Pyramid seems out of order or disrepair...we have no choice but to utilize the plants...which have taken over that broken machines duties....and no one knows how to fix that machine or how far stretching it reaches with other nodes and where they are.....and they are prohibiting plants today....and slaughtering people because of plants, or for it, to be out of order with God......more sin..more evil...more problems more $$!...round in circles we go...because thy will never claim God did it, or God made it..or God wants this done, or that not done...to keep us all in sin and evil...with that $$$$ polluting the planet more and more as we go nowhere but to a enevitable end by our own handyworks...in not listening to reason...even though the proof is right there of a telling sort......Yes let us argue and fight...let us never resolve anything....keep the blindfold on, close our ears, and cut off our hands and feet so we cannot go to or look upon the truth...smog is now getting into the lungs...should we also stop breathing?....surely a telling time...and it seems to point to that "atmospheric state" I am speaking about...climatization, ozone manufacturing, fresh air supplies...clean waters...and then Life...in a opposing state of that being polluted for $$$..the Anti God, Anti Christ, Anti EDEN...concept....seems the dots are kinda connecting more so with God than with Science that reputes the idea....I say.
Moving on from that - I fail to see how this thread about ancient pyramids being machines even belongs in the religious forum.
I put it here because people keep saying people back then when the bible was written were just a bunch of ignorant goat herders. They weren't. They lived in times of great understanding.
There's no point in arguing over whether the pyramids had burial chambers - or tombs, for the information is freely available from reputable sources and Egyptologists (especially see the Harvard-sponsored excavation of the Giza Pyramid and it's study of the burial chamber). Several posters have provided information, though it's pretty common knowledge already. It's not a belief - it's a well-established fact. Google it, pick up a book, go to the library, etc.
Of course it's okay - because it's factual to state that one of the main purposes of the pyramids was to facilitate a powerful leader's access to the afterlife via burial. I don't need your permission to be correct.
You - on the other hand - are holding to a belief when you insist that "the pyramids were nor tombs, they were machines". In addition to being a belief, it's a belief that flies in the face of all evidence - thus removing it even from the realm of "belief". Belief is usually defined as "faith in something that cannot be seen". Since there is evidence to the contrary of your belief, it ceases to be a belief and becomes wrong thinking. Plain and simple.
If you wish to persist in wrong thinking, by all means - but don't expect it to be accorded the same degree of respect that correct thinking based on evidence is. And don't think that you can dismiss the facts as just another "belief" that someone is entitled to. From what you have offered in this thread, it ranks up there with the JW's back-and-forth theories of the Giza Pyramid's purpose and every other fringe theory concerning the Pyramids.
Axiom A of whoppers:
The pyramids were built for tombs of the pharaohs.
Therefore the pharaoh's were entombed in the pyramids.
No pharaoh was ever found in a pyramid.
Axiom A of Eusebius:
Pharaho's were entombed in the valley of the kings.
Therefore the pharaoh's were entombed in the valley of the kings.
Therefore the pyramids were not used to entomb pharaohs but were machines.
You may as well use a quote and a link from "Above Top Secret" as the one you cite...I think I need my tinfoil hat again...
Were the Pyramids Used as Tombs?
The truth of the matter is that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence in support of Egyptologists on this subject. I will make an effort here to outline the reasons for believing that the pyramids were indeed used and designed for funerary purposes (the pyramids were NOT designed as tombs and tombs only, the complex as a whole played a pivotal role in the forwarding of the king's soul to the afterlife and providing sustenance while it was there) . Were the Pyramids Used as Tombs? | www.egyptian-mysteries.com
And yet we know the pharaoh's were entombed in the valley of the kings.
And yet we know the pharaoh's were entombed in the valley of the kings.
500 years worth of Pharaohs... out of 4-5000 years of Pharaonic Egypt!!!!
Seriously, if you are gonna argue a theory, argue it with at least some factual basis!
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