Provide Proof God Does Not Exist & Proof of Evolution Theory (bible, quote)

[Woof]

Originally Posted by rifleman

Only takes one sentence.

"Look at NASA's photos from space."

As in: this pretty factual picture:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/ima...main_Earth.jpg

Now as for Evoution, if you were to openly read even a smattering of the modern recent literature, in which exacting experiments are detailed, and which demo the truth that DNA genome mapping provides, or that others have observed in both the lab and in the field, you'd have to agree that Evolution has been more than proven. As science has always defined it:

Nope; it does not even try to explain abiogenesis, nor the origins of the universe. None of those obtusely deflective and annoying things that Creationists love to use to purposefully and falsely obfuscate the facts in evidence.

Nope: it's simply the [mostly] mutation-driven and genetically accumulated diversity of changes within the genotypes and resulting phenotypes of all organisms, resulting in new and different organisms over appropriate time periods. Not some squirrel giving birth to a giraffe overnight. Nor men borne out of an ape mother after a ten year period! What silly ideas!

Such claims are the stuff of the truly scientifically illiterate! Most often by a personal choice to remain that ill-educated.

You mistook my meaning. I believe in evolution (guided), but there was a request that it be proved in 2 sentences, so I gave the example at first of something we all agree on - the Earth is round. No one needs to prove it, but if you did want to prove it fully you would need more steps than 2.

Then I thought about it a little more and came up with a 2 step "proof", albeit condensed, for evolution:

Originally Posted by Woof

Evolution happened:

1. Millions of fossils have been collected from around the world, and are in museums etc for people to find. You can even dig some yourself.

2. They show transitions, changes, that generally speaking go from very simple organisms in the oldest rock layers to very complex organisms in the newer layers. The rock layers and Earth itself have been dated by various methods, not just carbon 14 which is for fairly recent remains.

QED

[Green Onions]

Originally Posted by jdaelectro

Somewhat like? I can go outside my house and observe that the earth is round. If proving evolution is even "somewhat like" proving the earth is round, then Ilene should be able to do it in a couple of sentences.

The Earth is not round.

It is an oblate spheroid.

[Woodrow LI]

Us theists are notorious for consistently making 2 errors that make us look like idiots. These errors being:

1. Challenging anyone to prove God does not exist.

2. Bringing evolution into the debate,especially with no knowledge of what Evolution is.



To challenge anyone to prove God does not exist, is a futile effort. It is no different from a non-theist challenging us to prove the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" does not exist.

We can't.

Nobody can prove the FSM does not exist, but that is not proof or even evidence that it exists. The fact somebody can not prove God does not exist, proves nothing and is not evidence He does exist. It is a nonsensical challenge that looks intelligent.

Evolution is one of the most misunderstood things by many of us. there is no such thing as a theory of evolution. Evolution is an established fact and predates Darwin by many centuries and is the basis of animal husbandry that has resulted in the large variety of live stock and cultivated plants today. The Theory is about the origin of species. There are many theories about how so many species came to be. Darwin proposed it to be the result of "Natural Selection" and this somehow ended up being called the "Theory of evolution" by the General population. But evolution is a long established fact and not a Theory.

I may be wrong but I do not believe Darwin ever even mentioned evolution in his Theory "Origin of Species" Most of us theists that attack Darwin have never even read his Book.

If you haven't read it read it here. ORIGIN OF SPECIES

[jdaelectro]

Originally Posted by MrBlueSky_

And what about you? Are you angry at Thor? Do you not want Zeus to exist? Nevermind the 10,000 other gods you don't believe in.

Does anybody think thor or zeus are real?

Just because man has come up with many gods, doesn't mean there isn't a one true God. Seriously, Dawkins is a sophomoric philosopher at best. Why use his lazy arguments?

[jdaelectro]

Originally Posted by Green Onions

The Earth is not round.

It is an oblate spheroid.

Touche'

[Woof]

Not a touche, oblate spheroids are round. Not perfectly spherical, but round nonethess.

[Interstate]

Originally Posted by jdaelectro

Does anybody think thor or zeus are real?

Just because man has come up with many gods, doesn't mean there isn't a one true God. Seriously, Dawkins is a sophomoric philosopher at best. Why use his lazy arguments?

At one point, yes. Very much so. Human civilizations have believed in thousands of created gods throughout history that we now know to be myths.

[jdaelectro]

Originally Posted by Interstate

At one point, yes. Very much so. Human civilizations have believed in thousands of created gods throughout history that we now know to be myths.

Let's pretend you are Satan. Your enemy is Christ, and your objective is to deceive people into denying Christ. The world is your playground, and you have these mortals that are far weaker in intellect than you. What do you think would be a sure fire way to get their sites off of Christ?

Remember, we are just pretending here.

[jdaelectro]

Originally Posted by Ilene Wright

I don't care enough about you or what you believe or don't believe to give this another thought.

Fair enough.

[Heathen Hammer]

Originally Posted by jdaelectro

Does anybody think thor or zeus are real?

Yes, they are still worshipped/followed today

Just because man has come up with many gods, doesn't mean there isn't a one true God. Seriously, Dawkins is a sophomoric philosopher at best. Why use his lazy arguments?

Actually based on certain definitions, there is no One True God.