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Old 08-18-2012, 11:20 PM
 
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personal suffering of children, of innocent men, women, and children all across the world.....including those who are born sick, and suffer from things out of their own control or anyone else's?

As a religious person, how do you answer that question?
do you just say: "well, god works in mysterious ways....."?

 
Old 08-18-2012, 11:33 PM
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Our stay on earth is but a short time. While we are part of the physical world we are subject to the physical laws of matter. this dunya (physical Life) is just a learning ground and test for us to handle to the best of our ability. We either learn to swim or sink in this sea of material limitations and challenges.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 05:14 AM
 
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If you do not know this living God than That is the answer to the question .....See if you do not know Him then others in the influences of the world do not know Him ....... There are people who do know Him but are overwhelmed by the lack of people who do not know Him .......See God gave us His Royal Son Jesus Christ for the earth to all who would be there to know this Creator Who is perfect in love and life....Where God Son is judgment for people to be judged of sin so we can find this God perfect in love , and life .... So the more people who know God in this truth and receive God and His blessing ....God will bring freedom from the suffering in the world .... So when we turn our back on God then He can not help us , because He gave this world to man , and will of man will dominate the world .... So God waits for man to ask for help , where God will help......
 
Old 08-19-2012, 05:42 AM
 
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Man, due to his sinful nature brought this upon himself.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 08:06 AM
 
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It has nothing to do with "god" because there is no such thing.
Suffering begins within, with negative thoughts, greed, egotism, and is manifest outward through one's actions. It is human choice, based on selfishness and a lack of tolerance, love and consideration for others that leads to evil deeds.

Natural forces and the results of natural forces are simply part of natural cycles on the planet. Tsunamis, Hurricanes, Tornados, can bering destruction, and cannot be altered. They are not the products ofa vengeful deity but natural occurances, and happen as far as we can tell on every planet in the universe which has an atmosphere. Man's reaction to these events, despair and helplessness vs cooperation and resiliance can also contribute to a level of negative thinking.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Kenmore, WA
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personal suffering of children, of innocent men, women, and children all across the world.....including those who are born sick, and suffer from things out of their own control or anyone else's?

As a religious person, how do you answer that question?
do you just say: "well, god works in mysterious ways....."?
God has nothing to do with suffering. Suffering is a condition of life. God is the Spiritual Presence within each sentient being that gives us the strength to face our suffering with love and compassion.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. There is nowhere that God is not. With the strength of God behind us we can overcome all adversity and reach out to others to help them do the same.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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God has nothing to do with suffering. Suffering is a condition of life. God is the Spiritual Presence within each sentient being that gives us the strength to face our suffering with love and compassion.

God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. There is nowhere that God is not. With the strength of God behind us we can overcome all adversity and reach out to others to help them do the same.

These two paragraphs contradict themselves. How can God be all of these things yet has nothing to do with suffering? Can he not relieve ore eliminate suffering? If he can, then he must be charged with ALLOWING suffering. Also, if God can help us overcome all adversity, why do Christians die from cancer? Coincidentally, just as I finished reading your post, I got a phone call about a friend's 42 year old Christian wife, who has two children, just died from bone cancer. She suffered for 6 months with excruciating pain, causing suffering for her family and friends as well and continued suffering for her two children and husband. This lady was a very devoted Christian, with probably 100's of other Christians praying for her to be healed. This example would tend to dispute what you say about being able to overcome all adversity. Any god that has the ability to eliminate this type of suffering but does nothing isn't deserving of any praise and worship.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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These two paragraphs contradict themselves. How can God be all of these things yet has nothing to do with suffering? Can he not relieve ore eliminate suffering? If he can, then he must be charged with ALLOWING suffering.
In your world where you can stand in judgment of God, ego-filled as you seem to be, but in my world, where I believe God to be omniscient, I believe that our suffering is a catalyst for understanding our insignificance in the world. Ours is to face our adversities with God's strength and be grateful for God's presence in all things.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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Epicurius (341-270 BC)

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
 
Old 08-19-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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Maybe he's not able or all knowing ? Maybe it's apart of his plan and he can't change anything unless he follows this path ? Or maybe he's just sadistic ? Or maybe he just doesn't care
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